From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/64100 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Strange toolbar icon for connect/disconnect Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:19:37 +0000 Message-ID: References: <86odq9pji4.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: dough.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1165936903 28901 80.91.229.10 (12 Dec 2006 15:21:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:21:43 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M12623@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Dec 12 16:21:42 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by dough.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Gu9Rp-00018j-B2 for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:21:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Gu9Qp-0003El-RI; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 09:20:35 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Gu9Qn-0003ES-S2 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 09:20:33 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Gu9Qh-0001bd-I7 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 09:20:33 -0600 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Gu9Qe-0003Jk-00 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:20:24 +0100 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Gu9QI-0007TW-Cl for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:20:02 +0100 Original-Received: from sl392.st-edmunds.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.223.202]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:20:02 +0100 Original-Received: from sdl.web by sl392.st-edmunds.cam.ac.uk with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:20:02 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 18 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sl392.st-edmunds.cam.ac.uk Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAC0AAAAtCAIAAAC1eHXNAAAACXBIWXMAAAsTAAALEwEAmpwY AAAAB3RJTUUH1gsWAiw4GKZrngAAAaVJREFUWMPtWDGOxCAMTJD/s9F9BCqae8K9556wTarwkVV+ xBUgCxFizBKzKc5KsckiMdjjwfbsvZ9kbDEm+7Jv2/Hf8BEmMSvuemaCOI57E2hADsRuHbVg1eI4 EES22YfisuqUInSMlBAtgieq9BT0B+EDwtR0D/vHIY3j5/tFvA71B+7NBCGSL7/PL0QQfnNsxvuW n+sSqa7Qge/lvQhPPwKlXH/s25YGqKmG6BFfoBcNI41KSc48QXiyA3XGFJq8F+9SYy73luIIzmKM dIBUk+rJGQRyFKEsxlTzJVvzts3H/mWksOIZ7nLvt+WLnMMg8LSqH9LBAsxbvpShh5CkqCjF3jV7 LZ6KyhdCyhAEQkFZSxU2VTxa94Cp6z1xQRXO3HNZXcgEl/ryTG+gNdGrgoYhqLLnxjqW8nRYVZZu pC7sUXvaYDi7b6tQYtStC619J/S5Z04X5i3ZnOOsvB3aR2XjKH5VoCRALKuOwbKOmX0C86BVh0Ka Pxzj1qcV5lsXVYscEAryI15g1iECejbHqj9ar/5q/9dmXsweWvvn9NCas/gPmFCS6kuMMdAAAAAA SUVORK5CYII= User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.0 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:7UOpjvabZZWwY19xX2etZhL6JDY= X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:64100 Archived-At: * [2006.12.12 10:10 +0100] David Kastrup wrote: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Hi, the toolbar icons that get used for connect/disconnect are > actually icons for "connected/disconnected". That is, they don't > visualize an action, but a state. The customary usage of these > connected/disconnected icons is to display the _current_ state, not > the state that is reached after pressing the button. > > The icon images should be swapped, since otherwise they are confusing > to users accustomed to them. I also found this weird and inconsistent with other apps when I was trying to make a tango icon set for Emacs. For example, in my laptop NetworkManager shows a connected icon when it is connected to the internet. -- Leo (GPG Key: 9283AA3F)