From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/86464 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: CHENG Gao Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Moving Gnus development to Emacs? Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2015 20:29:41 +0800 Organization: Royau.Me Message-ID: References: <87lh8b6jnl.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> <87wpruyhbp.fsf@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1451565025 8372 80.91.229.3 (31 Dec 2015 12:30:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2015 12:30:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 31 13:30:16 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aEcMy-0002gB-FA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 31 Dec 2015 13:30:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55515 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aEcMx-00035w-7F for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 31 Dec 2015 07:30:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34156) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aEcMi-00035g-W6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Dec 2015 07:30:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aEcMd-0004do-Tg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Dec 2015 07:30:00 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:34675) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aEcMd-0004ck-Ms for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Dec 2015 07:29:55 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aEcMb-0002Nw-LL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Dec 2015 13:29:54 +0100 Original-Received: from 112.80.138.165 ([112.80.138.165]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2015 13:29:53 +0100 Original-Received: from chenggao by 112.80.138.165 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2015 13:29:53 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 23 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 112.80.138.165 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:RB2DAcUG/oy1rWw8GfnVLI7JO/s= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:197251 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:86464 Archived-At: *On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 12:43:06 +0100 * Also sprach Michael Albinus : > David Engster writes: > >> No objections from me (I'm currently doing the same for CEDET, for >> pretty much the same reasons), but just to clarify: this means that >> we only care about the current Emacs version and do not do separate >> releases anymore? I'm mostly worried about how this will affect the >> T-shirt release process. > > Tramp will also remove the XEmacs compat code (and the compat code for > Emacs 22, to be precise). But the development will still be outside > Emacs, in order to support older Emacsen but master, and in order to > release more frequently than Emacs. One idea is to add Tramp also to > ELPA, as subtree. People could get than a newer version of Tramp than > the built-in. John talked about new trend to move more codes into ELPA. Maybe it's THE RIGHT WAY, to make emacs as emacs-core (with only bare functions) and all others packges (core as ELPA, third party as Melpa etc, or even PPA). If package.el becomes APT like, that'll be cool, really cool.