From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/80393 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dave Abrahams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Reviving Gnus after suspend/hibernation Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 16:29:58 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87wrc2qmog.fsf@gnu.org> <2iobxedxw9.fsf@news.eternal-september.org> <87lisitc2n.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <87ty72fjk7.fsf@gnu.org> <8762jiz3fh.fsf@dod.no> <87pqhpv1g5.fsf@dod.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1319315865 14325 80.91.229.12 (22 Oct 2011 20:37:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 20:37:45 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M28681@lists.math.uh.edu Sat Oct 22 22:37:41 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RHiK3-0004db-VV for ding-account@gmane.org; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 22:37:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RHiJe-0000MF-Le; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 15:37:14 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RHiJb-0000Lz-RS for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 15:37:11 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RHiJa-00008F-4v for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 15:37:11 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RHiJW-00013t-Lm for ding@gnus.org; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 22:37:06 +0200 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RHiJU-0004PY-UG for ding@gnus.org; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 22:37:04 +0200 Original-Received: from 207-172-223-249.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.static.cable.rcn.com ([207.172.223.249]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 22:37:04 +0200 Original-Received: from dave by 207-172-223-249.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.static.cable.rcn.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2011 22:37:04 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 27 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 207-172-223-249.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.static.cable.rcn.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/23.3 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:NAvPcPSxHT2tT8PPvNH/iGJO/mI= X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:80393 Archived-At: on Sat Oct 22 2011, Steinar Bang wrote: >>>>>> Dave Abrahams : > > >> Whether or not it does may depend on lots of things: backends, agent, >> cache, etc. Lars has said the code is generally not designed to >> handle arbitrary quit's, and I take him at his word. > >> Except in purely-functional languages where there is no mutation, >> invariants are regularly broken and fixed up (e.g. if two lists are >> supposed to be the same length, you ultimately have to modify them one >> at a time). If a quit is thrown while invariants are broken, they'll >> stay that way. > > Yes, well... eppur si muove... until something breaks in an unrepairable > fashion (so far it hasn't) I will continue to press `C-g' on a stuck > gnus. Probably after the first couple of breaks as well. Suit yourself. Some of us can't afford to have email go missing because Gnus gets confused :-) -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://www.boostpro.com