From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/74470 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tommy Kelly Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: nnimap now tries both imaps and imap Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 22:55:57 -0600 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1290920188 17148 80.91.229.12 (28 Nov 2010 04:56:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 04:56:28 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M22830@lists.math.uh.edu Sun Nov 28 05:56:24 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PMZJH-0002Jn-Po for ding-account@gmane.org; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 05:56:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PMZJ8-0000fw-9l; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 22:56:14 -0600 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PMZJ7-0000fl-2O for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 22:56:13 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PMZJ5-0006Zb-Lj for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 22:56:12 -0600 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1PMZJ4-0004hu-00 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 05:56:10 +0100 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PMZJ4-0002Gg-5R for ding@gnus.org; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 05:56:10 +0100 Original-Received: from cpe-70-112-150-104.austin.res.rr.com ([70.112.150.104]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 05:56:10 +0100 Original-Received: from tommy.kelly by cpe-70-112-150-104.austin.res.rr.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 05:56:10 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 15 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpe-70-112-150-104.austin.res.rr.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.2 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:GJBJKGxi1Bl2CrDG1TzbtvP0qfo= X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:74470 Archived-At: > But if you > > (setq proto-stream-always-use-starttls t) > > you'll re-enable the STARTTLS logic. Is that saying "always use starttls if the server reports being able to handle it"? In which case, was my problem that gmane appeared to be able to handle it but actually can't? Or is the above saying "always use starttls unless I tell you otherwise (e.g. in the select method using nntp-open-connection-function)"? In which case, what's the correct mechanism for turning off starttls? Tommy