From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/56633 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jonas Steverud Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: When the news server is dead and buried...? Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 15:03:32 +0100 Organization: The Deciples of Albericht Nibelungen Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1078841029 21993 80.91.224.253 (9 Mar 2004 14:03:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 14:03:49 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M5173=ding+2Daccount=gmane.org@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Mar 09 15:03:41 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1B0hpc-0001Rz-00 for ; Tue, 09 Mar 2004 15:03:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1B0hpb-0004W0-01 for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 09 Mar 2004 08:03:39 -0600 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1B0hpX-0004Vt-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 09 Mar 2004 08:03:35 -0600 Original-Received: from mxfep02.bredband.com (mxfep02.bredband.com [195.54.107.73]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2750B3A003A for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2004 08:03:34 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from c-9f5372d5.036-4-67626721.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se.bredband.net ([213.114.83.173] [213.114.83.173]) by mxfep02.bredband.com with ESMTP id <20040309140333.IYT8113.mxfep02.bredband.com@c-9f5372d5.036-4-67626721.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se.bredband.net> for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2004 15:03:33 +0100 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Mail-Copies-To: never In-Reply-To: (maillaxa@essilor.fr's message: 52:13 +0000 (UTC)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110001 (No Gnus v0.1) Emacs/21.3 (darwin) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:56633 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:56633 mailla writes: > Jonas Steverud bredband.net> writes: > >> I've decided that I will leave USENET anyway, due to the Spam-problem, > > Please don't ! We, as regular Gnus user, have been introduced a major=20 > killer-feature to beat spam. It is efficient though quite slow and more > it works !=20 The problem is not the spam in the group but the spam that is sent to the email adress I have in the From line. And I don't see any solution to this. The spammers seems to be incredible stupid, according to what I've read the The Register=B9, they seems to send a spam even to "JoeRemoveToReplyDoe@nospam.hotmail.com". That means that if I supply a bogus email address it will only increase the mail traffic on the 'Net and no one will be able to reach me even if they have real/legal reasons to do so. By posting on USENET I will receive a lot of spam, I will see a lot of st00pid comments and a lot of flames. Email lists tends to have a higher quality since they require people to do a minimum bit of work to be able to begin to post and people that has given up their interest in the topic unsubscribes to reduce the amount of email they get. And the st00pid ones can be kicked out. (I hate web forums becourse they never are close to USENET's and mailingslist's threading capabilities and are too close to chat/IRCs. But web forums are all the vogue in Sweden today, and when one can get a email digest of the forums it is in a newly invented format that probably is unreadable even in LookOut Express.) /Jonas, ranting a bit ------- =B9 www.theregister.co.uk --=20 ( http://hem.bredband.net/steverud/ ! Wei Wu Wei ) ( Meaning of U2 Lyrics, Roleplaying ! To Do Without Do )