* opportunistic PGP encryption/signing
@ 2002-09-26 15:27 dme
2002-09-26 17:23 ` Jack Twilley
2002-09-27 0:17 ` Daniel Pittman
0 siblings, 2 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: dme @ 2002-09-26 15:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
With the release of a new PGP interface for gnus, I'm again thinking
about more aggressive use of PGP myself.
My idea interface would be one where:
- all outgoing mail is signed,
- all outgoing mail is encrypted if I have a key for the receiving
party/parties,
- the key used for signing/encryption can be determined by a hook
function (such as something added to message-send-hook, which I
currently use for choosing a From: address, signature, etc.).
Coupled with interfaces for acquiring keys, etc. this would be great.
Does it exist ?
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* Re: opportunistic PGP encryption/signing
2002-09-26 15:27 opportunistic PGP encryption/signing dme
@ 2002-09-26 17:23 ` Jack Twilley
2002-09-27 8:04 ` Andreas Fuchs
2002-09-27 0:17 ` Daniel Pittman
1 sibling, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Jack Twilley @ 2002-09-26 17:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
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>>>>> "dme" == dme <dme@dme.org> writes:
dme> With the release of a new PGP interface for gnus, I'm again
dme> thinking about more aggressive use of PGP myself.
I had similar thoughts recently, and have done some of what you've
described below with bbdb-pgp.
dme> My idea interface would be one where:
dme> - all outgoing mail is signed,
Nearly all my outgoing mail and posts are signed. I have bbdb entries
flagged with exceptions (some newsgroups and some people can't deal
with signatures, for example).
dme> - all outgoing mail is encrypted if I have a key for the
dme> receiving party/parties,
Other bbdb entries have tags requiring encryption. I have not yet
written a script to associate keys with bbdb entries or to traverse my
key-ring and set the related encryption tag in the bbdb entries, but
it's on my list.
dme> - the key used for signing/encryption can be determined by a
dme> hook function (such as something added to message-send-hook,
dme> which I currently use for choosing a From: address,
dme> signature, etc.).
This would be pretty simple, but it's not something I would ever use
so I never implemented it.
dme> Coupled with interfaces for acquiring keys, etc. this would be
dme> great.
Something that snarfed keys and updated the bbdb would probably
complete my needs in this case.
dme> Does it exist ?
If you think my bbdb-pgp changes would suit your needs, let me know
and I'll post them here.
Jack.
(whee.)
- --
Jack Twilley
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* Re: opportunistic PGP encryption/signing
2002-09-26 15:27 opportunistic PGP encryption/signing dme
2002-09-26 17:23 ` Jack Twilley
@ 2002-09-27 0:17 ` Daniel Pittman
1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Pittman @ 2002-09-27 0:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
On Thu, 26 Sep 2002, dme@dme.org wrote:
> With the release of a new PGP interface for gnus, I'm again thinking
> about more aggressive use of PGP myself.
>
> My idea interface would be one where:
> - all outgoing mail is signed,
> - all outgoing mail is encrypted if I have a key for the receiving
> party/parties,
> - the key used for signing/encryption can be determined by a hook
> function (such as something added to message-send-hook, which I
> currently use for choosing a From: address, signature, etc.).
>
> Coupled with interfaces for acquiring keys, etc. this would be great.
>
> Does it exist ?
Try <http://anubis.sourceforge.net/>, which proclaims itself to do what
you want independent of the MUA.
It sounds like it's flexible enough to allow you to hook up things by
adding a custom header, though.
OTOH it's a non Emacs solution which may be less than desirable.
Daniel
--
The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.
-- L P Hartley, _The Go-Between_
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* Re: opportunistic PGP encryption/signing
2002-09-26 17:23 ` Jack Twilley
@ 2002-09-27 8:04 ` Andreas Fuchs
0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Fuchs @ 2002-09-27 8:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 2002-09-26, Jack Twilley <jmt+usenet@twilley.org> wrote:
> dme> - all outgoing mail is encrypted if I have a key for the
> dme> receiving party/parties,
>
> Other bbdb entries have tags requiring encryption. I have not yet
> written a script to associate keys with bbdb entries or to traverse my
> key-ring and set the related encryption tag in the bbdb entries, but
> it's on my list.
I've done such a thing, but it is really buggy (the regex matching names
requires special care - it matches a " " at the end too many). Please
don't use the module unmodified, it could might ruin your .bbdb
(i.e. add a lot of dupes).
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I hope that helps (even though there are no comments (-;).
> dme> - the key used for signing/encryption can be determined by a
> dme> hook function (such as something added to message-send-hook,
> dme> which I currently use for choosing a From: address,
> dme> signature, etc.).
>
> This would be pretty simple, but it's not something I would ever use
> so I never implemented it.
I don't think it would be very useful for people who have more than one
private key in their ring for one address (people like me, for example,
who created a key with a very old version of gpg and then created a new
one when the security advisory was posted).
> dme> Coupled with interfaces for acquiring keys, etc. this would be
> dme> great.
>
> Something that snarfed keys and updated the bbdb would probably
> complete my needs in this case.
Yow, that would be really great.
> dme> Does it exist ?
>
> If you think my bbdb-pgp changes would suit your needs, let me know
> and I'll post them here.
Please do. I hope you're using the mml-secure-message-.*-pgpmime stuff?
Have fun,
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