* September Gnus 0.75 is released
@ 1996-04-18 21:29 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1996-04-19 0:57 ` Steven L Baur
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1996-04-18 21:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
Bug fixes.
Get it from <URL:http://www.ifi.uio.no/~larsi/sgnus.tar.gz> or
"ftp.ifi.uio.no:/pub/emacs/gnus/".
ChangeLog since last release:
Thu Apr 18 20:10:11 1996 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@aegir.ifi.uio.no>
* gnus.el (gnus-summary-show-article): Stop page breaking when
given a prefix.
* gnus-vis.el (gnus-summary-make-menu-bar): Removed obsolete
functions.
* gnus-msg.el (gnus-summary-reply): Pass on `broken-reply-to'.
* message.el (message-reply): Allow broken reply-to.
* gnus.el (gnus-group-jump-to-group): Refuse to treat groups that
have control characters in them.
Thu Apr 18 18:47:16 1996 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <lars@eyesore.no>
* gnus-vis.el (gnus-button-url-regexp): Allow "!" in URLs.
* gnus.el (gnus-summary-exit): Always run
`gnus-summary-prepare-exit-hook'.
--
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larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: September Gnus 0.75 is released
1996-04-18 21:29 September Gnus 0.75 is released Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 1996-04-19 0:57 ` Steven L Baur
1996-04-19 5:50 ` Mark Borges
1996-04-19 22:56 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Steven L Baur @ 1996-04-19 0:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
It appears to work on XEmacs -- good.
It looks like you've solved the problem of surprise in header writing
by putting them into the *mail message* buffer at message composition
time -- also good.
Would it be possible to also apply the usual header coloration
functions? Either that or reorder the headers into some more logical
order?
What I see is: (``Date:'' and ``Message-ID:'' are italicized)
Sender: steve@deanna.miranova.com
To: ding@ifi.uio.no
Subject: Re: September Gnus 0.75 is released
References: <w8swx3dp6fj.fsf@hler.ifi.uio.no>
X-Url: http://www.miranova.com/%7Esteve/
Mail-Copies-To: never
From: Steven L Baur <steve@miranova.com>
Date: 18 Apr 1996 17:49:37 -0700
In-Reply-To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of 18 Apr 1996 14:29:47 -0700
Message-ID: <m2n34982ce.fsf@deanna.miranova.com>
Lines: 1
X-Mailer: September Gnus v0.75/XEmacs 19.13
Gcc: nnfolder+archive:misc-mail
Which is rather a jumble.
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* Re: September Gnus 0.75 is released
1996-04-19 0:57 ` Steven L Baur
@ 1996-04-19 5:50 ` Mark Borges
1996-04-19 22:56 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Mark Borges @ 1996-04-19 5:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
>> On 18 Apr 1996 17:57:03 -0700,
>> Steven L Baur(s) wrote:
...
s> What I see is: (``Date:'' and ``Message-ID:'' are italicized)
s>
s> Sender: steve@deanna.miranova.com
s> To: ding@ifi.uio.no
s> Subject: Re: September Gnus 0.75 is released
s> References: <w8swx3dp6fj.fsf@hler.ifi.uio.no>
s> X-Url: http://www.miranova.com/%7Esteve/
s> Mail-Copies-To: never
s> From: Steven L Baur <steve@miranova.com>
s> Date: 18 Apr 1996 17:49:37 -0700
s> In-Reply-To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of 18 Apr 1996 14:29:47 -0700
s> Message-ID: <m2n34982ce.fsf@deanna.miranova.com>
s> Lines: 1
^^^^^^^^^?
This is slightly off-topic, but lately I've seen more and more posts
with a line count of `1' in the summary buffer. Is sgnus keying off
this header? Why is it wrong? Does sgnus not update it, or is it some
other mail agent's responsibility?
I guess I have to re-train myself to not trust it as a indication of
message content.
--
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* Re: September Gnus 0.75 is released
1996-04-19 0:57 ` Steven L Baur
1996-04-19 5:50 ` Mark Borges
@ 1996-04-19 22:56 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1996-04-22 4:09 ` Steven L Baur
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1996-04-19 22:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
Steven L Baur <steve@miranova.com> writes:
> Would it be possible to also apply the usual header coloration
> functions?
We have the `message-font-lock-keywords' variable that could be filled
out properly, I guess... Suggestions (and patches) are welcome.
> Either that or reorder the headers into some more logical order?
That's an idea... Perhaps there should be a `message-sort-headers'
function that could sort the headers over
`message-header-format-alist'? Is there a simple way to do this, or
do I have to write a function to do it the hard way?
Hm. I just wrote the damn thing. `sort-subr' is nice.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: September Gnus 0.75 is released
1996-04-19 22:56 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 1996-04-22 4:09 ` Steven L Baur
1996-04-22 18:12 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Steven L Baur @ 1996-04-22 4:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> "Lars" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no> writes:
Lars> Steven L Baur <steve@miranova.com> writes:
>> Would it be possible to also apply the usual header coloration
>> functions?
Lars> We have the `message-font-lock-keywords' variable that could be filled
Lars> out properly, I guess... Suggestions (and patches) are welcome.
O.K. Setting font-lock-keywords is evil, but
message-font-lock-keywords works.
(setq steves-smtp-nntp-headers '("^[A-Za-z][-0-9A-Za-z]*:"))
(defun steves-article-highlight-headers ()
"Hook for coloring news post and mail send buffers."
(setq message-font-lock-keywords steves-smtp-nntp-headers)
(turn-on-font-lock))
(add-hook 'message-mode-hook 'steves-article-highlight-headers)
Appears to do what I was doing before message.el.
>> Either that or reorder the headers into some more logical order?
Lars> That's an idea... Perhaps there should be a `message-sort-headers'
Lars> function that could sort the headers over
Lars> `message-header-format-alist'? Is there a simple way to do this, or
Lars> do I have to write a function to do it the hard way?
Well, what I really meant was the headers Gnus used to display, like
To:, Cc:, Subject:, References:, In-Reply-To: (in that order) at the
top. And Gcc:, Fcc: at the bottom, with custom headers and other Gnus
supplied headers in between.
Lars> Hm. I just wrote the damn thing. `sort-subr' is nice.
I don't know about ``hard way''. I like very much the kind of header
highlighting done already when reading articles. All I'm really
interested in doing is applying the same function to a message prior
to editing.
The vital headers like Newsgroups:, To:, Cc:, and Subject: I want to
have in separate, visually standing out colors. I'll settle for just
getting them to appear the same way they do when I'm reading an
article.
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* Re: September Gnus 0.75 is released
1996-04-22 4:09 ` Steven L Baur
@ 1996-04-22 18:12 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1996-05-01 4:33 ` Steven L Baur
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1996-04-22 18:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
Steven L Baur <steve@miranova.com> writes:
> Well, what I really meant was the headers Gnus used to display, like
> To:, Cc:, Subject:, References:, In-Reply-To: (in that order) at the
> top. And Gcc:, Fcc: at the bottom, with custom headers and other Gnus
> supplied headers in between.
Yup. `C-c C-h' in 0.78 will sort the headers.
> Lars> Hm. I just wrote the damn thing. `sort-subr' is nice.
>
> I don't know about ``hard way''. I like very much the kind of header
> highlighting done already when reading articles. All I'm really
> interested in doing is applying the same function to a message prior
> to editing.
Yes. The way Gnus used to sort headers in articles was rather, uhm,
nasty. Lots of garbage strings generated. The new
`message-sort-headers-1' function uses `sort-subr' which doesn't
generate any garbage strings, I think.
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* Re: September Gnus 0.75 is released
1996-04-22 18:12 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 1996-05-01 4:33 ` Steven L Baur
1996-05-01 5:16 ` Per Abrahamsen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Steven L Baur @ 1996-05-01 4:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
>>>>> "Lars" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no> writes:
> Steven L Baur <steve@miranova.com> writes:
>> Well, what I really meant was the headers Gnus used to display, like
>> To:, Cc:, Subject:, References:, In-Reply-To: (in that order) at the
>> top. And Gcc:, Fcc: at the bottom, with custom headers and other Gnus
>> supplied headers in between.
Lars> Yup. `C-c C-h' in 0.78 will sort the headers.
That's nice, I like it. I suppose if I look hard enough, there's a
hook I can plug into to make this the default behavior.
Lars> Hm. I just wrote the damn thing. `sort-subr' is nice.
>>
>> I don't know about ``hard way''. I like very much the kind of header
>> highlighting done already when reading articles. All I'm really
>> interested in doing is applying the same function to a message prior
>> to editing.
You've gone and done something a little different from what I was
doing, but quite acceptable. The red for cited text makes a nice
visual contrast. Bloody red is a strong encouragement to be concise
in quoting as well :-).
The coloring on the headers works for me. These changes make editing
a message much easier for me. Thanks.
--
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* Re: September Gnus 0.75 is released
1996-05-01 4:33 ` Steven L Baur
@ 1996-05-01 5:16 ` Per Abrahamsen
1996-05-01 6:18 ` Steven L Baur
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Per Abrahamsen @ 1996-05-01 5:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> "Lars" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no> writes:
Lars> Yup. `C-c C-h' in 0.78 will sort the headers.
Protest! `<prefix> C-h' should give you a list of key bindings that
start with `<prefix>'.
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* Re: September Gnus 0.75 is released
1996-05-01 5:16 ` Per Abrahamsen
@ 1996-05-01 6:18 ` Steven L Baur
1996-05-01 6:43 ` Per Abrahamsen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Steven L Baur @ 1996-05-01 6:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> "Per" == Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk> writes:
>>>>> "Lars" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no> writes:
Lars> Yup. `C-c C-h' in 0.78 will sort the headers.
Per> Protest! `<prefix> C-h' should give you a list of key bindings that
Per> start with `<prefix>'.
Good point. How about C-c s instead? I was going to suggest C-c C-s
which leads to the sorting functions in the *Summary* buffer, but that
appears to be already taken by a function I've never used before.
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* Re: September Gnus 0.75 is released
1996-05-01 6:18 ` Steven L Baur
@ 1996-05-01 6:43 ` Per Abrahamsen
1996-05-01 13:30 ` message-send (C-c C-s) (was Re: September Gnus 0.75 is released) Jack Vinson
1996-05-02 14:12 ` September Gnus 0.75 is released Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Per Abrahamsen @ 1996-05-01 6:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> "SLB" == Steven L Baur <steve@miranova.com> writes:
SLB> How about C-c s instead?
`C-c <letter>' is reserved for the user.
Try `C-c C-o' (for order).
SLB> I was going to suggest C-c C-s
SLB> which leads to the sorting functions in the *Summary* buffer, but that
SLB> appears to be already taken by a function I've never used before.
`C-c C-s' is broken now, but I used often in the past. It is (should
be) like `C-c C-c' except that it doesn't (shouldn't) bury the buffer.
I used it when I wanted to send slight variations of the same message
to different people.
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* message-send (C-c C-s) (was Re: September Gnus 0.75 is released)
1996-05-01 6:43 ` Per Abrahamsen
@ 1996-05-01 13:30 ` Jack Vinson
1996-05-02 14:12 ` September Gnus 0.75 is released Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Jack Vinson @ 1996-05-01 13:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> "PA" == Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk> writes:
PA> `C-c C-s' is broken now, but I used often in the past. It is (should
PA> be) like `C-c C-c' except that it doesn't (shouldn't) bury the buffer.
PA> I used it when I wanted to send slight variations of the same message
PA> to different people.
It's not completely broken, is it? When I do C-c C-s, the message gets
sent and a few headers get added (From, Date, Message-Id, Lines). There is
also a buffer-local variable that gets set (message-sent-message-via) which
makes things odd if you want to re-send from the same *message* buffer.
Message tells me that the message in question has already been sent by
mail, do I want to resend?
The variable is a list of methods that have been used to send the message,
i.e. '(mail news) if it was sent with both mail and news.
--
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* Re: September Gnus 0.75 is released
1996-05-01 6:43 ` Per Abrahamsen
1996-05-01 13:30 ` message-send (C-c C-s) (was Re: September Gnus 0.75 is released) Jack Vinson
@ 1996-05-02 14:12 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1996-05-02 14:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk> writes:
> >>>>> "SLB" == Steven L Baur <steve@miranova.com> writes:
>
> SLB> How about C-c s instead?
>
> `C-c <letter>' is reserved for the user.
>
> Try `C-c C-o' (for order).
I've now moved the ordering command to that key.
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