From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/83447 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Par Kurlberg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: tick marks cleared on server, but still seen as ticked by gnus Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2013 23:22:39 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87sizyjw2r.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1372713897 14335 80.91.229.3 (1 Jul 2013 21:24:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 21:24:57 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M31707@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Jul 01 23:24:57 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Utlae-0007oL-IG for ding-account@gmane.org; Mon, 01 Jul 2013 23:24:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1UtlYn-0004ST-Dz; Mon, 01 Jul 2013 16:22:57 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1UtlYk-0004SF-GD for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 01 Jul 2013 16:22:54 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UtlYi-0005b8-7a for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 01 Jul 2013 16:22:53 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UtlYg-00044v-8W for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 01 Jul 2013 23:22:50 +0200 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UtlYd-0005zQ-C0 for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 01 Jul 2013 23:22:47 +0200 Original-Received: from c-89-160-0-43.cust.bredband2.com ([89.160.0.43]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 01 Jul 2013 23:22:47 +0200 Original-Received: from kurlberg by c-89-160-0-43.cust.bredband2.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 01 Jul 2013 23:22:47 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 50 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-89-160-0-43.cust.bredband2.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:5ZL8/56J69gNkdz12SjrG37Uh34= X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:83447 Archived-At: I've now put (setq gnus-agent nil) in my .gnus, please let me know if there is something else I should do to disable the agent. Anyway, I now see the following behaviour: * Using gnus (and checking what is on the imap server by using thunderbird): Setting tick: works (the message is starred according to thunderbird.) Clearing tick: works (the star is cleared according to thunderbird.) Clearing read flag: pressing M-c (gnus-summary-clear-mark-forward): works. Setting read flag by pressing "d" (gnus-summary-mark-as-read-forward): works. To be precise: the flags are only updated when I hit q to exit summary buffer. * Going the other direction: setting/clearing read/star on the thunderbird side, and noting what gnus "sees". (Note: the changes done on the thunderbird side are noticed by our webmail frontend.) Setting star: works once - message ticked according to gnus (after hitting g in the group buffer). When I tried it again it did not work. Clearing star: does not work - still ticked according to gnus. (After hitting g in the group buffer.) Clearing read flag: works sometimes. (The number of unread messages in the group buffer changes.) Setting read flag: works sometimes. (The number of unread messages in the group buffer changes.) Regarding the read flags working occasionally, can't spot a pattern. This is a bit perplexing - before I set gnus-agent to nil, I'm pretty sure read/unread was syncronized from thunderbird to gnus. Best, Par