From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/6612 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Steven L Baur Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Unsolicited ads Date: 10 Jun 1996 10:13:50 -0700 Sender: steve@miranova.com Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.67) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035147042 4194 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 20:50:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:50:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: David Worenklein , (ding) GNUS Mailing List Return-Path: ding-request@ifi.uio.no Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by deanna.miranova.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA18052 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 10:39:52 -0700 Original-Received: from deanna.miranova.com (steve@deanna.miranova.com [206.190.83.1]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 19:14:57 +0200 Original-Received: (from steve@localhost) by deanna.miranova.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) id KAA17272; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 10:13:51 -0700 Original-To: Ketil Z Malde X-Url: http://www.miranova.com/%7Esteve/ Mail-Copies-To: never In-Reply-To: Ketil Z Malde's message of 10 Jun 1996 08:07:44 -0700 Original-Lines: 53 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.2.14/XEmacs 19.14 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:6612 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:6612 >>>>> "Ketil" == Ketil Z Malde writes: >> David Worenklein writes: >> Some how, I've gotten onto an e-junk-mail list. Has anyone thought >> about ways of dealing with this? For instance, maintaining a list >> of all people who have sent me mail in the past and lowering the >> score of an article if it's from someone not on the list? The problem with this is that the worse offenders use throw-away accounts, so the first message from that mailbox may well be the last ... Ketil> I maintain a list of all domains that have repeatedly sent me Ketil> spam in the past, and use procmail to automatically discard Ketil> mail from these domains. Some magic ensures that messages that Ketil> are replies to my own messages won't be affected. Ketil> Of course, the list of rotten domains should perhaps be Ketil> globally maintained, so that when enough spams have originated Ketil> from some domain, it could be automatically blocked by all who Ketil> wanted. Yup. There is a maintained black list. Brian Edmonds has a reference to it in a Gnus/antispam page: http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/edmonds/usenet/gnus/ (there's a reference to this in the Gnus FAQ). Ketil> For my particular spam filtering, look at: Ketil> http://www.ii.uib.no/~ketil/mailsorting.html (Also referenced by the Gnus FAQ, BTW). The problem with any solution of this form is that it is reactive, and ineffective against many spams. A better long-term solution is going to be maintaining a ``white list'', and filtering non-white list e-mail to a lower priority mailbox. I like the idea of only accepting personal e-mail that contains ecash postage of some sort, and then only cashing in on the postage if you deem the mail message not worth the time to read it. The technology for implementing this kind of a solution is well within the current capabilities of Gnus all by itself, though it won't be of much use until ecash (of whatever form) is more prevalent. A wild idea off the top of my head: How effective would a closed mailing list be that distributed the equivalent of NoCEM information about spammers? The messages would be of the same form, and could be automatically processed by Gnus ... -- steve@miranova.com baur Unsolicited commercial e-mail will be proofread for $250/hour. Andrea Seastrand: For your vote on the Telecom bill, I will vote for anyone except you in November.