From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/85308 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Davis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Mutt/Gnus hybrid for mail? Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 17:47:00 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87egs952jy.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418078874 17634 80.91.229.3 (8 Dec 2014 22:47:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 22:47:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org To: Peter =?utf-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Original-X-From: ding-owner+M33552@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Dec 08 23:47:48 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xy75m-0001IY-U7 for ding-account@gmane.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 23:47:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Xy75C-0008OP-Tq; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 16:47:10 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Xy75B-0008OA-4F for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 16:47:09 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Xy759-0006zm-Bp for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 16:47:08 -0600 Original-Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.27]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xy757-0007Ki-O1 for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 23:47:05 +0100 Original-Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.42]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0589A20085 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2014 17:47:05 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 08 Dec 2014 17:47:05 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=x-sasl-enc:from:to:cc:subject:references :date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=smtpout; bh=iqGqobuzqWjgkvEfg1xUn5 X/QRI=; b=aim0BIeUII387qUsgAtrUcnLmWSp1VYHZVY+ZopvqIfgkxszV1yRy2 2kyX9w0N9Kkq54t4tqqmZx3RB/fgBbPg/e/YU/73g2nCcZWCsrIMe4wgjytAsVSI FWgTlGnnfYtqz2wKb1ivYLdi6oQMxvdmDb3qdXmSZWB6LoKO4pUcY= X-Sasl-enc: wm4Yj8ZM9yMaSCMZjPi9jpjnqWXkiTDGkN+ulpB9Fgih 1418078824 Original-Received: from PFDStudio-Air.home (unknown [173.76.32.54]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 57DAEC0027D; Mon, 8 Dec 2014 17:47:04 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87egs952jy.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> ("Peter \=\?utf-8\?Q\?M\=C3\=BCnster\=22's\?\= message of "Mon, 08 Dec 2014 21:06:41 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (darwin) X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85308 Archived-At: Peter M=C3=BCnster writes: > On Mon, Dec 08 2014, Peter Davis wrote: > >> For email, I like some things about mutt, > > Hi, > > What things? Most significantly, since I only use mutt or gnus for email, I find mutt more intuitive, since its commands, etc. were designed for email. "Delete" instead of "Expire", etc. (BTW, I'm using both with Fastmail.fm IMAP.) Also, when I delete/expire a message, mutt automatically displays the next unread message in the folder. Gnus requires another keystroke. (Not a big deal, but annoying.) I have not managed to get gnus to display previously read messages in a thread automatically, though I've messed around with=20 (setq gnus-fetch-old-headers t). I gather this is inconsistent on IMAP servers, and slow. I realize I could customize gnus to behave exactly the way I want, but I'm not a much of a lisper, so it would take me a fair bit of effort. Anyway, customatizations are unlikely to improve performance. Mutt seems faster at downloading messages, etc. I'm certainly open to suggestions on how to improve any of these. Thanks, -pd