Re: gnus-ignored-from-addresses puzzler

[Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com>]

ShengHuo ZHU <zsh@cs.rochester.edu> writes:

> Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
> 
> > ShengHuo ZHU <zsh@cs.rochester.edu> writes:
> > 
> > > > I've posted this with mutt to see if gnus will show the header
> > > > differently again when I download the message resent by  ding list and
> > > > incorporate it into my gnus setup. (with gnus)
> > > 
> > > Does it show the different header again?
> > 
> > Yes it does.  Here are the two [partial] headers:
> > 
> > Posted with mutt:
> >    From: Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com>
> >    Subject: Re: gnus-ignored-from-addresses puzzler
> >    To: ding@gnus.org
> >    Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 03:52:57 -0700
> >    Message-ID: <20001003035257.A9495@reader.ptw.com>
> > 
> > Posted with gnus
> > 
> >    From: Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com>
> >    Subject: Re: gnus-ignored-from-addresses puzzler
> >    To: ding@gnus.org
> >    Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 03:52:57 -0700
> >    Message-ID: <20001003035257.A9495@reader.ptw.com>
> 
> They are the exact same.  Are you sure you copy them from different
> messages?

Whoops ... so much for my killring skills... Here is the correct first
one:

  From: Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com>
  Subject: gnus-ignored-from-addresses puzzler
  To: ding@gnus.org
  Date: 02 Oct 2000 18:29:23 -0700
  Message-ID: <m2vgva1zm4.fsf@pgnus-5.8.8-cvs.now.playing>

> 
> > Gnus has got to be looking at something bysides "From: " to determine
> > what to ignore.  Do you know what else gnus looks at?
> 
> Actually, Gnus is also looking for the extra header "To".  So if the
> .overview doesn't contain it, Gnus will still show "From".  Could you
> check the .overview to see if "To: ding@gnus.org" exists in the entry?
> 
> ShengHuo

OK,, This is getting a little confusing, with me making mistakes on
this end.  Now for clarity:  My most recent post was posted with gnus
and it too shows the the From header 

Message-ID: <m2em1y15cs.fsf@pgnus-5.8.8-cvs.now.playing>

The overview file entry broken into lines for clarity:
  3723	Re: gnus-ignored-from-addresses puzzler	
  Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com>	
  03 Oct 2000 05:22:59 -0700	
  <m2em1y15cs.fsf@pgnus-5.8.8-cvs.now.playing>	
  <m2vgva1zm4.fsf@pgnus-5.8.8-cvs.now.playing> 
  <200010030241.e932fGp02918@zsh.2y.net> 
  <ltbsx2y796.fsf@asfast.com> 
  <200010030257.e932vZ602990@zsh.2y.net> 
  <20001003035257.A9495@reader.ptw.com> 
  <200010031213.e93CDBR05256@zsh.2y.net>	1050	34	
  Xref: reader.ptw.com ding2:3723	

No "To" header


Now running nnml-regenerate-nov-databases-1 on the ding group I get:

     3723	Re: gnus-ignored-from-addresses puzzler	
     Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com>	
     03 Oct 2000 05:22:59 -0700	
     <m2em1y15cs.fsf@pgnus-5.8.8-cvs.now.playing>	
     <m2vgva1zm4.fsf@pgnus-5.8.8-cvs.now.playing> 
     <200010030241.e932fGp02918@zsh.2y.net> 
     <ltbsx2y796.fsf@asfast.com> 
     <200010030257.e932vZ602990@zsh.2y.net> 
     <20001003035257.A9495@reader.ptw.com> 
     <200010031213.e93CDBR05256@zsh.2y.net>	1050	34	
     Xref: reader.ptw.com ding2:3723	To: ding@gnus.org	

Still no "To" header yet the message now appears as I expect in
summary buffer:

 2!  03-Oct+                        [  34: -> ding@gnus.org    ] 
 1!  03-Oct                             [  39: ShengHuo ZHU   


I am now leaving for work so will not be able to reply to this thread
until this evening.  Thanks for your help thus far.