From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/14618 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: SL Baur Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Showing dormants when entering mail group? Date: 16 Mar 1998 00:07:14 -0800 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035153780 17216 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 22:43:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 22:43:00 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from xemacs.org (xemacs.cs.uiuc.edu [128.174.252.16]) by altair.xemacs.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA12099 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 00:08:07 -0800 Original-Received: from gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (gizmo.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.102.31]) by xemacs.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA00228 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 02:02:41 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (sina.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.3.5]) by gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAN18665; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 02:38:01 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Mon, 16 Mar 1998 02:02:14 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from claymore.vcinet.com (claymore.vcinet.com [208.205.12.23]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA20438 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 02:02:05 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 24637 invoked by uid 504); 16 Mar 1998 08:01:54 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 24634 invoked from network); 16 Mar 1998 08:01:54 -0000 Original-Received: from xemacs.miranova.com (HELO altair.xemacs.org) (steve@206.190.83.19) by claymore.vcinet.com with SMTP; 16 Mar 1998 08:01:53 -0000 Original-Received: (from steve@localhost) by altair.xemacs.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA12094; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 00:07:16 -0800 Mail-Copies-To: never Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: (:YAD@JS'&Kz'M}n7eX7gEvPR6U1mJ-kt;asEc2qAv;h{Yw7ckz<7+X_SYeTNAaPui:e~x$ ,A=gkt*>UPL/}\a/#C~v2%ETiAY_sx;xve0yL??JWTtX_-NUzXyP38UdW#cmN1\4(X!c3m#%IbtB-3 Z-!xpZi!`E.s{(;aP=b11"!3wQu]1j@^V|;n=B|{l writes: > SL Baur writes: >> O.K. I did some digging and unfortunately the behavior of suppressing >> childless dormants appears to be hardcoded. Rats. > It happens to be the whole idea behind the dormant mark. Why? I tried using the dormant mark as a means of quickly seeing which messages of mine had been responded to in a (Mail) group. What immediately turned me off about it is that once a message disappears the entire group has to be rescanned to make these messages reappear. I believe my objection to this would be resolved if there was a means of having dormants older than a certain age (from a group parameter) appear by default. How are dormants supposed to be used? > I think it is better to start working on support for real labels, or > to start using subgroups as labels, instead of changing a feature like > dormant articles into something for which it wasn't designed. What are subgroups? User-defined marks would be nice, or anything I can get access to in `gnus-summary-highlight'.