From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/75284 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tommy Kelly Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Error in (info "(gnus)Splitting Mail") Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 09:53:14 -0600 Message-ID: References: <87fwtwzqm5.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87aak4488w.fsf_-_@gmail.com> <874oa9u9au.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1292774036 5702 80.91.229.12 (19 Dec 2010 15:53:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 15:53:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 19 16:53:52 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PULa4-0001JQ-AC for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Dec 2010 16:53:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60728 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PULa3-0001Mh-EI for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Dec 2010 10:53:51 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=42388 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PULZy-0001MO-8C for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Dec 2010 10:53:49 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PULZl-0005Rz-C8 for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Dec 2010 10:53:34 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:58023) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PULZk-0005Rg-RG for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Dec 2010 10:53:33 -0500 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PULZj-000146-26 for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Dec 2010 16:53:31 +0100 Original-Received: from cpe-70-112-150-104.austin.res.rr.com ([70.112.150.104]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2010 16:53:31 +0100 Original-Received: from tommy.kelly by cpe-70-112-150-104.austin.res.rr.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2010 16:53:31 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 39 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpe-70-112-150-104.austin.res.rr.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.2 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:mL9FYwCzkueTBDrrDG3d4ukfyGY= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:14336 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:75284 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 16:33:47 -0600 Tommy Kelly wrote: > > TK> The person who wrote the stuff, understands it in intense > TK> detail without the documentation, and therefore has little or no need > TK> of the documentation thinks the documentation is more readable as it is. > > TK> The person who is trying to learn the stuff, and must rely heavily on > TK> said documentation thinks the documentation would be more readable with a > TK> a minor fix. > > Štěpán was noting a minor issue: if mail comes from majordomoXcom (any > single character) instead of majordomo.com, it will match that splitting > rule. I don't think Štěpán suggested it would make the documentation > more readable to fix that. You're right. Štěpán explained the thing to me and then flagged it to The Documenters. *I* am suggesting that Štěpán's flagging was useful and that, contrary to Lars's view, the proposed fix is worthwhile and makes things more readable[1]. And my underlying point was that while Lars is an undoubted expert in Gnus, *I* am an expert in being a new and clueless user of it. The documentation has an intended core audience, and it ain't Lars. So Štěpán's point was one of regexp structure; mine, one of pedagogy. All that said. I'm new here and have invested a mere fraction of the hours in this project that y'all have. So don't hesitate to pat me on the head and say "Shhhh! The grown-ups are speaking." :-) Tommy [1] Or rather, it makes it more consistent and understandable -- a.k.a. better. I'm with everyone else in that adding toothpicks rarely makes for improved *read*-ability. But that -- toothpicks (and (to further make the (undoubtedly made (albeit obliquely) by now) point) parens) -- is the life we have chosen for ourselves.