From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 4297 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2022 16:19:33 -0000 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu (129.7.128.32) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 4 Jan 2022 16:19:33 -0000 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1n4mX5-002eiw-4J for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 10:19:31 -0600 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1n4mX4-002ap4-FL for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 10:19:30 -0600 Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1n4mX1-002aov-PS for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 10:19:27 -0600 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1n4mWy-00B49O-Tc for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 10:19:27 -0600 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :Date:Subject:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID:Content-Description: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Ar/D0q06fsBVE2d+j4ye8FLz3wCubULZMyS+pBzP4wk=; b=MCfuFDhnhSatp7j3USfVTR5byv dScgCeSaVGPqlMr1Rac0czChotZtkRT94aGrfbWbMR9JIGL73HCM/9ssgHM2zst23VDn3zGwgDD+P RMjroAt1NEukcAgrjOHnpsvR9UdnC7Vks4d+rBfaSlzG+0PZKaY5nDczu8D32Hzl6erE=; Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr ([2a01:e0c:1:1599::11]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n4mWq-00015Y-1x for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 17:19:18 +0100 Received: from Metheny.local.free.fr (unknown [IPv6:2a01:e0a:485:d5d0:559d:e19d:5c56:40f7]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 066CE2003F7 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2022 17:19:12 +0100 (CET) From: Didier Verna To: Gnus Beta Testers Subject: Problems with unlabeled mails on Gmail IMAP User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (darwin) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAHlBMVEWSa0bu9eE+JQDi8/XT uX3l2eDFSihGOEGRHg359fX1k8d3AAACOUlEQVQ4jZWRvYvbQBDFB6EYpctyUaHODMG37SFcqNsL snPpzpxVXHccZtkyuEm7LMcyrbi40H+bt/JXHHAgg5Gl99v3ZneHFGpApUddD6eiI0j1fg0MzTUw /A9oroH6n+Cv5sMRvA9PCb6n1xNQZbtTN8NQjauavaMaeqW+8fR7v9eT/wiGT8z8BXKvqh5JzSnq 69Rv+b7vVV9dNs/IF7D063bxfAbVUOroJNw+70yRtysII4C70/FV+HZhHiSnRQVQ3ylV1c0vZhEJ hYQYnW+VGsFN3ewAfMY8czFKDP5+BHV9V2Y6AS1LKxJF/AGUaxODBJ4GWwg7EaZ6TCrXhUuAtRPY JEgCdd10RkQLc0BK2gVr6mCoV2sSdGadxKQnsILemeLnFmDKzglOildaqTkMJjdJL7DaWXGOA3Vd M18ZWnyb8nYMstHCFqjs6u4zkXqcbrMRvBD2YR2VT/Nnk39YrX9kBBBfPQUtAOqm68h87NYc3gqN fO+zmQVYzZtHKu53ABEyx43HvqwFuDPGrxdL3KvgLqKNm4doJ+iB1j67ZWwHhhGFSIQDPlJqF9J1 k5DjJQCilDK+GO8husBUWGmXMDtqW8IXErAueDIb2z6k81CqyQbTsa8zJOZiXzJNoiHLoZzmmRV+ M3netgEA4zkVhrUxOTI4OfQ4GZ0WYIj4ETlETdwYFMD2Q02DTD2sPTaRoM9/0M+A92DMJjnqWi6K vHV/xpzBRZNLMLEH00UaXbMkIBfgYPsN0UOtZUffaGQAAAAASUVORK5CYII= Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAGFBMVEXZm2zq5fNvNzWXJxiY fVIwIxD0+vXl6uBqAeO7AAACPElEQVQ4jW2SPW/jMAyGhcS5zF6SNdA56BqUEm4VLApeg0hEZwMH a62LQvr7R1n5aK+h48DiY369tJiulvgep3Zq230uJm5gGtt2bMv//4BtN+b0A4wlXZ6epJri4nhS YxdjTvEJmHLfbX+C3RQbwsuz4u8dXtwQd2n/DcTsjLD2zw+QPhFto8Ot3xtIkbD3DYW038evIH4E tEFoSDl+B2iajWoQfn0HMTd2DQBqPcxxvIORZwAHOoRmdQe7mVeRPkwB/izdS67KizS1MeWjVQxI IR0KKBGZhZveERDAwhGpY30XEFLM2JizZb+mDmWeK6BBrAit5wA6Um/0dl5GFxfvPZi1V07JlWlQ b3O7dEX8rldrODkKn4YrDYvqM4sAoJXXStPb3wPXebkCz4R/hK+U8/n3ht7q6kXxgj+Bc285Sb+B c95XUFJ5C7AacnKkdchVRI5YrtcuT/mDPIVcF8WKorVasxaZAYThAcwmcPUtnz4v8JLmOodyZ+FI WZAmN0ICdzsvk6/hjO5oLEnZU5AQtnMF3BRqsErxA/3mDmUdXXhQfNuT4Fr8ATEd5mtxU4A9WUQ8 NAC3CCKD7mRcsEp3RmjVd1hM6AIOJ3deG+5POF6VlAUQqV5yTR5FdwL1BasJIGIdeMzSHlpNBAa7 JaKQZbdalbUzgUt3BbxGPjJHXZ65NU5VX7piqH7osO6DV0U380XvXi6g2OKrFbgLeQeatOeLdD0+ AJSu/DXgVT6A93C34v+S6kGKX/4DrQdQpSOIo60AAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Attribution: dvl X-Url: http://www.lrde.epita.fr/~didier X-Web: http://www.lrde.epita.fr/~didier X-Home-Page: http://www.lrde.epita.fr/~didier Mail-Copies-To: never Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2022 17:19:12 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-ID: Precedence: bulk Hello, after hitting the storage limit on Gmail (and being rather surprised by it), I started to investigate on how to make room, and I discovered something very strange. I had *crateloads* of unlabeled emails, emails that would normally have been classified somewhere thanks to nnmail-split-methods, and would have ended up being deleted after a while. Now that I'm watching this very closely, I can see this happening almost in real time. For example, I have an nnmail split method that redirects mailing list traffic to list-specific labels. I know that the split method works because I can see new emails going directly to the right place after hitting 'g'. However, when I go the the gmail web interface and search for has:nouserlabels, I can /also/ see some emails from that (those) list(s), with no tag, and also not in the inbox anymore. So Gnus doesn't see them anywhere. Now if I mark those messages as unread and move them back to inbox (from the web interface), then after hitting 'g', Gnus will see them, and 'B t' or 'B r' work correctly. I'd appreciate it if anyone understands what might be going on... As a side note, something even more puzzling is that has:nouserlabels shows me several messages which /do/ have user labels. I'm even more at a loss here. Note that I don't have any filtering rule on gmail itself. Only nnmail split methods. Thanks, and happy (or better) 22 ! --=20 @-quartet / =C2=A1En Seguida! live au Sunside, 9 F=C3=A9vrier 2022, 21h30 ! https://www.sunset-sunside.com/2022/2/artiste/2101/7899/ Lisp, Jazz, A=C3=AFkido: http://www.didierverna.info