As long as I'm making embarrassing mistakes... I thought I'd try out mairix. The nognus 0.15 manual (and other web sources) say you start by creating a foreign server with "G b c". Yeah, except "G" "b" reports "G b is undefined" in the *Group* buffer. What's the PEBKAC this time? Be seeing you, norm -- Norman Walsh | Any bureaucracy reorganized to enhance http://nwalsh.com/ | efficiency is indistinguishable from | its predecessor.