From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/31512 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Harry Putnam Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: example queries for nnir Date: 23 Jun 2000 16:50:55 -0700 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035167914 14519 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 02:38:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 02:38:34 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from karazm.math.uh.edu (karazm.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.1]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEFCBD051E for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2000 10:33:02 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by karazm.math.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAC11688; Sat, 24 Jun 2000 09:32:34 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sat, 24 Jun 2000 09:31:41 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA22969 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2000 09:31:28 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from mail.networkone.net (mail.networkone.net [209.144.112.75]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 308B8D051E for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2000 10:32:01 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (qmail 11833 invoked from network); 24 Jun 2000 14:31:59 -0000 Original-Received: from adsl-117-113.ln.networkone.net (HELO reader.ptw.com) (209.144.117.113) by mail.networkone.net with SMTP; 24 Jun 2000 14:31:59 -0000 Original-Received: (from reader@localhost) by reader.ptw.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA09670; Sat, 24 Jun 2000 07:31:58 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: reader.ptw.com: reader set sender to reader@newsguy.com using -f Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE's message of "Fri, 23 Jun 2000 14:33:19 +0200" User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.5 Original-Lines: 62 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:31512 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:31512 Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Gro=DFjohann) writes: [...] >=20 > My suggestion meant that you put all the words from the body into the > global field, and no other words into the global field. Hence > searching the global field is the same as searching the body. Hoookay now I get it... click! >=20 > > > Are you saying that (setq nnir-search-engine 'wais) and (setq > > > nnir-search-engine 'imap) is not sufficient and that I should include > > > the full list of allowed symbols? > >=20 > > Very sorry Kai, but I thought we were discussing the opening > > comments in nnir.el. Which should probably include the examples you > > refer to above. Those that appear in that actual code as documnet > > strings. I had not noticed those examples which probably means many > > new users would not either. >=20 > Hm. Okay. I have tried to explicitly include a pointer to the > docstrings in the opening comments, but apparently this was not > explicit enough. Do you think a wording along the lines of `type C-h > v nnir-search-engine RET for more information' would be clear enough? Looking at version 1.57. It looks very clear... I even understood it.. he he > Do you think it would be better to document it twice? What about the > newly changed wording in the opening comments? After looking at the new stuff, and understanding better the reasoning involved, I guess I was making a lot of fuss about nothing. It seems quite clear how to proceed now.=20 >=20 > > I think this is a good practice and was only suggesting that any of > > the variables discussed in comments should also have any defaults > > pointed out. >=20 > Okay. FWIW, I have tried to make the variable documentation more > explicit, too. I see the new documentation. Seems much more complete and usefull. Thanks for being so responsive to this, even though I lack much skill in this stuff. Is that really true that wais needs: `nnir-wais-remove-prefix'? It doesn't default to /home/$USER/Mail/? I've only been using: ; (setq nnir-wais-database "/home/reader/.wais/mail1") ; (setq nnir-search-engine `wais) in ~/.gnus when trying to work with wais. Maybe part of my troubles. This new documentation you've done is really well done, I hope it turns out to be worth the work you put in.