From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/9352 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Acronym lookups Date: 09 Jan 1997 21:49:14 +0100 Sender: larsi@proletcult.slip.ifi.uio.no Message-ID: References: <199701091928.LAA10033@newman> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035149390 17960 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 21:29:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:29:50 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (0@ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by deanna.miranova.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA08189 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 14:21:31 -0800 Original-Received: from proletcult.slip.ifi.uio.no (root@ppp19.larris.ifi.uio.no [129.240.68.119]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 23:00:56 +0100 Original-Received: (from larsi@localhost) by proletcult.slip.ifi.uio.no (8.8.2/8.8.2) id VAA08362; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 21:49:16 +0100 Original-To: ding@ifi.uio.no In-Reply-To: "William M. Perry"'s message of Thu, 9 Jan 1997 11:28:36 -0800 Original-Lines: 42 X-Mailer: Red Gnus v0.81/Emacs 19.34 X-Face: &w!^oO~dS|}-P0~ge{$c!h\ writes: > _ALL_ of this functionality should be available to other applications > easily, without requiring the user to load up all of GNUS/VM/W3 to be able > to base64 a !%#*ing file. This is one of the reasons I've been slowly > rewriting chunks of W3 to be more modular. VM, GNUS, and W3 can all > benefit from a standard set of libraries that do: > > - Mailcap Parsing > - base64 (en|de)coder > - Quoted printable (en|de)code > - rot13 display code > - URL loading > - RFC822 header parsing Hear, hear. One reason I'm not totally grossed out (just slightly grossed out) by the things happening with Netscape 4.0 (go read news.software.readers) is that I rely on (at some point in the (hopefully) not-too-far-off-future) tm (or something) to do the Mimy things and w3 to do all html'y things. Reinventing wheels is a bore. So... When's w3 going into the Emacs distribution, Bill? :-) Lazy loading makes libraries even more useful than they were before -- if they're programmed sensibly (i. e., don't require everything between heaven and Earth to be loaded in). Which is why I separated out all non-Gnus-specific article functions into article.el. But then I put it back in again, because the division wasn't totally clean... Perhaps I should separate it out again and cleanify it. Hm. > As you can guess, I'd say distribute it separately, and do your best not > to require stuff you don't absolutely need from GNUS, to make it easier for > people to using it elsewhere. Yes, I think so too. So I didn't include acronym.el in Red Gnus 0.80 after all. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen