From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/57126 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jonas Steverud Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: spamc invocation: move from procmail to Gnus Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 13:32:58 +0200 Organization: The Deciples of Albericht Nibelungen Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <873c6tdvbs.fsf@unix.home.local> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1082892954 11850 80.91.224.253 (25 Apr 2004 11:35:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 11:35:54 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M5666@lists.math.uh.edu Sun Apr 25 13:35:46 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BHhvG-0006rf-00 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 13:35:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1BHhsl-0001LI-00; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 06:33:11 -0500 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1BHhsc-0001LA-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 06:33:02 -0500 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BHhsb-0006nQ-QZ for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 06:33:01 -0500 Original-Received: from mxfep02.bredband.com (mxfep02.bredband.com [195.54.107.73]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B073A0038 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 06:32:58 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from c-a75372d5.036-4-67626721.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se.bredband.net ([213.114.83.250] [213.114.83.250]) by mxfep02.bredband.com with ESMTP id <20040425113257.BRJW9494.mxfep02.bredband.com@c-a75372d5.036-4-67626721.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se.bredband.net> for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 13:32:57 +0200 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Mail-Copies-To: never In-Reply-To: <873c6tdvbs.fsf@unix.home.local> (Vasily Korytov's message of "Sat, 24 Apr 2004 23:33:59 +0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110001 (No Gnus v0.1) Emacs/21.3 (darwin) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:57126 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:57126 deskpot@despammed.com (Vasily Korytov) writes: > Hi everybody, Hello. [...] > I.e. it's fetched by fetchmail and other means and put in maildir by > procmail, preprocessed by spamassassin. I'm moving my home directory to > NFS and the host machine (k6-266/128m/ata) won't be able to easily > handle spamassassin. So I want to run spamc on client machines. I don't quite follow what you try to archive. I'm with you all the way up to "run spamc on client machines." Will the client machines run fetchmail and procmail? > I've also looked into spam.el, but found the way, it offers, too > complicated, but uneffective. I simply want to have spamassassin scores > in message header before it gets delivered to a folder. It might be so that you are looking at Gnus from the procmail/SA angle but need to look at procmail/SA from the Gnus angle. What does you do with the spam that SA detects? I.e. what does you do with mails that has the "X-SPAM: yes" header? Do you score on it or do you split such emails to a specific group? Does you use SA's training capabilities or just the static rule check? I'm not convinced spam.el can be used to use spamassassin as is but need to be extended. This should be possible and definitely something some here might help out with - since it is a feature that is needed. I had one long look at spam filtering in Gnus before selecting which backend I should use and I found like you did that spamassassin is not perfectly integrated into Gnus (yet) so I decided I should use bogofilter instead and I'm quite happy with that result. It is nontrivial to use spamassassin from inside Gnus, one way of solving this is to decide if you have to use spamassassin or can change to some other filter - or wait until SA is integrated. Can you describe the thoughts behind your decisions why you arrived at this solution? -- ( http://hem.bredband.net/steverud/ ! Wei Wu Wei ) ( Meaning of U2 Lyrics, Roleplaying ! To Do Without Do )