Removing 'install'?

Removing 'install'?

[David Engster]

Here's something I wondered for years, but never eared to ask. The
README says

"Do not say "make install".  I repeat, do *NOT* say "make install".  If
you say "make install" and then complain about things not working,
I'll be very annoyed."

Why not simply remove the 'install' rule, then? (Or, you know, fix it
*duck*).

-David

Re: Removing 'install'?

[Dave Goldberg]

> Here's something I wondered for years, but never eared to ask. The
> README says

> "Do not say "make install".  I repeat, do *NOT* say "make install".  If
> you say "make install" and then complain about things not working,
> I'll be very annoyed."

> Why not simply remove the 'install' rule, then? (Or, you know, fix it
> *duck*).

Not that I care a lot either way, but after setting the directories for my environment with configure, make install works exactly as expected for me.

-- 
Dave Goldberg
david.goldberg6@verizon.net

Re: Removing 'install'?

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 09:22:55 -0400 david.goldberg6@verizon.net (Dave Goldberg) wrote: 

DG> Not that I care a lot either way, but after setting the directories
DG> for my environment with configure, make install works exactly as
DG> expected for me.

I'd like to make Gnus an ELPA package eventually.  That's much cleaner
than configure+make.  Lars, WDYT?  Another TODO item for Cloudy Gnus or
for the trash heap?

Ted

Re: Removing 'install'?

[Leonidas Tsampros]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 09:22:55 -0400 david.goldberg6@verizon.net (Dave Goldberg) wrote: 
>
> DG> Not that I care a lot either way, but after setting the directories
> DG> for my environment with configure, make install works exactly as
> DG> expected for me.
>
> I'd like to make Gnus an ELPA package eventually.  That's much cleaner
> than configure+make.  Lars, WDYT?  Another TODO item for Cloudy Gnus or
> for the trash heap?
>
> Ted

Well that would be super nice! :)

Re: Removing 'install'?

[Didier Verna]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> wrote:

> I'd like to make Gnus an ELPA package eventually. That's much cleaner
> than configure+make.

  Does ELPA speak XEmacs ?

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Re: Removing 'install'?

[Dave Goldberg]

> On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 09:22:55 -0400 david.goldberg6@verizon.net (Dave
> Goldberg) wrote:

DG> Not that I care a lot either way, but after setting the directories
DG> for my environment with configure, make install works exactly as
DG> expected for me.

> I'd like to make Gnus an ELPA package eventually.  That's much cleaner
> than configure+make.  Lars, WDYT?  Another TODO item for Cloudy Gnus or
> for the trash heap?

The only concern I'd have is if that adds any difficulty for use with XEmacs.

-- 
Dave Goldberg
david.goldberg6@verizon.net

Re: Removing 'install'?

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 12:36:17 +0200 Didier Verna <didier@xemacs.org> wrote: 

dvl> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> wrote:

>> I'd like to make Gnus an ELPA package eventually. That's much cleaner
>> than configure+make.

dvl>   Does ELPA speak XEmacs ?

On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 10:28:42 -0400 david.goldberg6@verizon.net (Dave Goldberg) wrote: 

DG> The only concern I'd have is if that adds any difficulty for use with XEmacs.

package.el is the issue.  The ELPA standard is just a web site with a
metadata file.  So I don't know if package.el works on XEmacs but they
have their own package system.

IMO it would be really nice to the Gnus users to provide a way to pull a
nightly build as a package, both in the GNU ELPA and in XEmacs (whatever
the package system).  I can set up the nightly update of the GNU ELPA,
and making Gnus itself into a package should be pretty easy (famous last
words).  I don't know enough about XEmacs to say.

Ted

Re: Removing 'install'?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> I'd like to make Gnus an ELPA package eventually.  That's much cleaner
> than configure+make.  Lars, WDYT?  Another TODO item for Cloudy Gnus or
> for the trash heap?

Well...  the development Gnus is, like, development Gnus, and I don't
really want to inflict it on people who aren't following the
development.

But putting each released version into ELPA I wouldn't mind.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
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Re: Removing 'install'?

[James Cloos]

>>>>> "DG" == Dave Goldberg <david.goldberg6@verizon.net> writes:

DG> Not that I care a lot either way, but after setting the directories
DG> for my environment with configure, make install works exactly as
DG> expected for me.

Make install is also used with complete success by the Gentoo ebuilds.

-JimC
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Re: Removing 'install'?

[Charles Philip Chan]

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David Engster <deng@randomsample.de> writes:

> "Do not say "make install".  I repeat, do *NOT* say "make install".
> If you say "make install" and then complain about things not working,
> I'll be very annoyed."

I have never had a problem with make install. It has always worked for
me. You just need to "configure" it properly.

Charles

-- 
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(By Matt Welsh)

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Re: Removing 'install'?

[Richard Riley]

Charles Philip Chan <cpchan@bell.net> writes:

> David Engster <deng@randomsample.de> writes:
>
>> "Do not say "make install".  I repeat, do *NOT* say "make install".
>> If you say "make install" and then complain about things not working,
>> I'll be very annoyed."
>
> I have never had a problem with make install. It has always worked for
> me. You just need to "configure" it properly.
>
> Charles

It probably depends on the distro I would guess.

Debian can get into a right mess with emacs at times.