From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/75930 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Francis Moreau Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Proposed default change: Show the lapsed time instead of the date Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 13:02:32 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87mxmpkdu2.fsf@gnus.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1295956980 308 80.91.229.12 (25 Jan 2011 12:03:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 12:03:00 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M24282@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Jan 25 13:02:55 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Phhbq-0003Bd-5Z for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 13:02:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Phhbl-0003uq-9X; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 06:02:49 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Phhbk-0003uf-4c for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 06:02:48 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Phhbf-0003rA-Hi for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 06:02:47 -0600 Original-Received: from mail-wy0-f172.google.com ([74.125.82.172]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Phhbe-0001B0-L1 for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 13:02:42 +0100 Original-Received: by wyf23 with SMTP id 23so5500156wyf.17 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 04:02:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:to:subject:references:mail-followup-to :date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=20YYPWWSCjfPrT+EAIUShe942H4Y2oE/5Y2v48pl3+Y=; b=ZZKXlRPFgjwdRBxieU7y1UsfHrpWQFlumDMtAFAE73Cfr1Z8l+fOtLKrrkKmIw6OVu Zs1in2+fwKrr7F3ScWOj6AltJtswPHIi+lzleVe5ZBw5Ro2Q6YbqQfgX8y2K/Uj+v2b8 U+RhgtEkYGtfMvpEVl9go+fDxB9cmEcGRuCvk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:references:mail-followup-to:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=En4ZFnjNPDrs+hrqZCw/Y/2XlwA7v72/tD4+q8P/5Zk51VZCI/TndsYhN80BUnci7+ c8syMDuW23YcDGaOGVW4m/qbawchvxRVQLG2Er2G8ew4wQ+ym/xdcaN6teQ2ajdMy4jH jKoRWfIV+teu9eVjb27hdxDjSgqkytxKu/DAA= Original-Received: by 10.227.133.15 with SMTP id d15mr5725340wbt.76.1295956957081; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 04:02:37 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost (au213-1-82-235-205-153.fbx.proxad.net [82.235.205.153]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m50sm7121926wek.32.2011.01.25.04.02.34 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 25 Jan 2011 04:02:35 -0800 (PST) Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: <87mxmpkdu2.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 24 Jan 2011 16:48:53 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:75930 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > I think reading the raw date header is pretty much useless, so I propose > to make the following default change: > > (setq gnus-treat-date-lapsed 'head) > Well, I think it makes sense FWIW. But I also think that displaying the second is quite useless, since there're no real point to know this information. Are there any way to skip them ? Also maybe it would be nice to simplify the elapsed time format. For example, displaying this: 5 weeks, 1 day, 3 hours, 51 minutes, 26 seconds ago is quite ugly. What is important is 5 weeks, the rest becomes irrevelant. So it would be nice if we could round the elapsed time. BTW are there any ways to make such change in the group buffer ? Thanks -- Francis