* Gnus & Quoted-Printable
@ 2004-05-03 7:55 Samuel Tardieu
2004-05-03 17:59 ` Markus Knittig
2004-05-04 0:50 ` Jesper Harder
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From: Samuel Tardieu @ 2004-05-03 7:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
Every few years, when I configure my Gnus, I face the same problem:
how can I make sure that Gnus will *never* *ever* send
quoted-printable when posting news and even mail?
Sam
--
Samuel Tardieu -- sam@rfc1149.net -- http://www.rfc1149.net/sam
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* Re: Gnus & Quoted-Printable
2004-05-03 7:55 Gnus & Quoted-Printable Samuel Tardieu
@ 2004-05-03 17:59 ` Markus Knittig
2004-05-03 20:13 ` Jonas Steverud
2004-05-03 21:47 ` Samuel Tardieu
2004-05-04 0:50 ` Jesper Harder
1 sibling, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Markus Knittig @ 2004-05-03 17:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
Quote [ Samuel Tardieu * 3897. September 1993 ]
> Every few years, when I configure my Gnus, I face the same problem:
> how can I make sure that Gnus will *never* *ever* send
> quoted-printable when posting news and even mail?
Customize mm-body-charset-encoding-alist. E.g.:
,----
| (add-to-list 'mm-body-charset-encoding-alist '(iso-8859-1 . 8bit))
|
| (if (mm-coding-system-p 'iso-8859-15)
| (add-to-list 'mm-body-charset-encoding-alist '(iso-8859-15 . 8bit)))
`----
Best regards,
Markus
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* Re: Gnus & Quoted-Printable
2004-05-03 17:59 ` Markus Knittig
@ 2004-05-03 20:13 ` Jonas Steverud
2004-05-04 21:20 ` Reiner Steib
2004-05-03 21:47 ` Samuel Tardieu
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From: Jonas Steverud @ 2004-05-03 20:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
Markus Knittig <dev-null@knittig.de> writes:
> Quote [ Samuel Tardieu * 3897. September 1993 ]
>
>> Every few years, when I configure my Gnus, I face the same problem:
>> how can I make sure that Gnus will *never* *ever* send
>> quoted-printable when posting news and even mail?
>
> Customize mm-body-charset-encoding-alist. E.g.:
(setq mm-coding-system-priorities '(iso-latin-1 utf-8)) has something
to do with it as well, doesn't it?
--
( http://hem.bredband.net/steverud/ ! Wei Wu Wei )
( Meaning of U2 Lyrics, Roleplaying ! To Do Without Do )
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* Re: Gnus & Quoted-Printable
2004-05-03 17:59 ` Markus Knittig
2004-05-03 20:13 ` Jonas Steverud
@ 2004-05-03 21:47 ` Samuel Tardieu
2004-05-03 22:23 ` Christophe Cuq
2004-05-04 11:26 ` Markus Knittig
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From: Samuel Tardieu @ 2004-05-03 21:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> "Markus" == Markus Knittig <dev-null@knittig.de> writes:
Markus> Customize mm-body-charset-encoding-alist.
It contains:
((iso-latin-1 . 8bit)
(iso-latin-15 . 8bit)
(iso-8859-1 . 8bit)
(iso-8859-15 . 8bit)
(utf-8 . 8bit)
(iso-2022-jp . 7bit)
(iso-2022-jp-2 . 7bit)
(utf-16 . 8bit)
(utf-16be . base64)
(utf-16le . base64))
A test message I just sent in fr.test contains:
| Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15
| Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am puzzled...
Sam
--
Samuel Tardieu -- sam@rfc1149.net -- http://www.rfc1149.net/sam
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* Re: Gnus & Quoted-Printable
2004-05-03 21:47 ` Samuel Tardieu
@ 2004-05-03 22:23 ` Christophe Cuq
2004-05-04 11:26 ` Markus Knittig
1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Christophe Cuq @ 2004-05-03 22:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
Samuel Tardieu wrote:
> It contains:
>
> ((iso-latin-1 . 8bit)
> (iso-latin-15 . 8bit)
The last should be iso-latin-9 not 15 (iso-8859-15 = latin-9), but I am
not sure that the problem is here.
--
CHC
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* Re: Gnus & Quoted-Printable
2004-05-03 7:55 Gnus & Quoted-Printable Samuel Tardieu
2004-05-03 17:59 ` Markus Knittig
@ 2004-05-04 0:50 ` Jesper Harder
2004-05-04 1:18 ` Samuel Tardieu
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From: Jesper Harder @ 2004-05-04 0:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
Samuel Tardieu <sam@rfc1149.net> writes:
> Every few years, when I configure my Gnus, I face the same problem:
> how can I make sure that Gnus will *never* *ever* send
> quoted-printable when posting news and even mail?
Customise `gnus-group-posting-charset-alist' -- in particular the
(message-this-is-mail ...) entry.
But note that doing this for email violates RFC 2822 (it's also
rumoured to be unhealthy for pigeons, or something).
--
Jesper Harder <http://purl.org/harder/>
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* Re: Gnus & Quoted-Printable
2004-05-04 0:50 ` Jesper Harder
@ 2004-05-04 1:18 ` Samuel Tardieu
2004-05-04 2:19 ` Jesper Harder
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From: Samuel Tardieu @ 2004-05-04 1:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> "Jesper" == Jesper Harder <harder@ifa.au.dk> writes:
Jesper> Customise `gnus-group-posting-charset-alist' -- in particular
Jesper> the (message-this-is-mail ...) entry.
I did it, to no avail...
I even changed the message-this-is-mail setting just to check (I am
using news and was OK to hurt avian carriers). The current value is:
(("^\\(no\\|fr\\)\\.[^,]*\\(,[ \n]*\\(no\\|fr\\)\\.[^,]*\\)*$" iso-8859-1
(t))
("^\\(fido7\\|relcom\\)\\.[^,]*\\(,[ \n]*\\(fido7\\|relcom\\)\\.[^,]*\\)*$" koi8-r
(koi8-r))
(message-this-is-mail nil t)
(message-this-is-news nil t))
I ended up with yet another test message in quoted-printable...
Sam
--
Samuel Tardieu -- sam@rfc1149.net -- http://www.rfc1149.net/sam
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* Re: Gnus & Quoted-Printable
2004-05-04 1:18 ` Samuel Tardieu
@ 2004-05-04 2:19 ` Jesper Harder
2004-05-04 7:04 ` Samuel Tardieu
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Jesper Harder @ 2004-05-04 2:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
Samuel Tardieu <sam@rfc1149.net> writes:
>>>>>> "Jesper" == Jesper Harder <harder@ifa.au.dk> writes:
>
> Jesper> Customise `gnus-group-posting-charset-alist' -- in particular
> Jesper> the (message-this-is-mail ...) entry.
>
> I did it, to no avail...
It works for me. Ah, you're not using a vanilla Gnus:
User-Agent: T-gnus/6.16.2 (based on Gnus v5.10.2) (revision 02) SEMI/1.14.5 (Awara-Onsen) FLIM/1.14.5 (Demachiyanagi) APEL/10.6 Emacs/21.3 (i386--freebsd) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI)
All bets are off for this, as it uses a completely different MIME
library than Gnus -- don't expect anything charset related in the Gnus
manual to be true for this version.
You probably have to read the manual for SEMI, FLIM or APEL to figure
it out.
--
Jesper Harder <http://purl.org/harder/>
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* Re: Gnus & Quoted-Printable
2004-05-04 2:19 ` Jesper Harder
@ 2004-05-04 7:04 ` Samuel Tardieu
0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Samuel Tardieu @ 2004-05-04 7:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> "Jesper" == Jesper Harder <harder@ifa.au.dk> writes:
Jesper> It works for me. Ah, you're not using a vanilla Gnus:
Jesper> User-Agent: T-gnus/6.16.2 (based on Gnus v5.10.2) (revision
Jesper> 02) SEMI/1.14.5 (Awara-Onsen) FLIM/1.14.5 (Demachiyanagi)
Jesper> APEL/10.6 Emacs/21.3 (i386--freebsd) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI)
Jesper> All bets are off for this, as it uses a completely different
Jesper> MIME library than Gnus -- don't expect anything charset
Jesper> related in the Gnus manual to be true for this version.
Thanks Jesper, that was it. I had no particular reason to use T-Gnus,
so I switched to the vanilla Gnus included in Emacs. This works much
much better :)
Sam
--
Samuel Tardieu -- sam@rfc1149.net -- http://www.rfc1149.net/sam
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* Re: Gnus & Quoted-Printable
2004-05-03 21:47 ` Samuel Tardieu
2004-05-03 22:23 ` Christophe Cuq
@ 2004-05-04 11:26 ` Markus Knittig
1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Markus Knittig @ 2004-05-04 11:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
Quote [ Samuel Tardieu * 3897. September 1993 ]
>> Customize mm-body-charset-encoding-alist.
> It contains:
[...]
> A test message I just sent in fr.test contains:
> | Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15
> | Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> I am puzzled...
,----
| User-Agent: T-gnus/6.16.2 (based on Gnus v5.10.2) (revision 02)
| SEMI/1.14.5 (Awara-Onsen) FLIM/1.14.5 (Demachiyanagi) APEL/10.6
| Emacs/21.3 (i386--freebsd) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI)
`----
That work's only with the standard gnus from
<URL:http://www.gnus.org/>.
Best regards,
Markus
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* Re: Gnus & Quoted-Printable
2004-05-03 20:13 ` Jonas Steverud
@ 2004-05-04 21:20 ` Reiner Steib
2004-05-05 8:06 ` Jonas Steverud
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From: Reiner Steib @ 2004-05-04 21:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Mon, May 03 2004, Jonas Steverud wrote:
> Markus Knittig <dev-null@knittig.de> writes:
[...]
>> Customize mm-body-charset-encoding-alist. E.g.:
>
> (setq mm-coding-system-priorities '(iso-latin-1 utf-8)) has something
> to do with it as well, doesn't it?
Content-Type != Content-Transfer-Encoding
Bye, Reiner.
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* Re: Gnus & Quoted-Printable
2004-05-04 21:20 ` Reiner Steib
@ 2004-05-05 8:06 ` Jonas Steverud
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From: Jonas Steverud @ 2004-05-05 8:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
Reiner Steib <4.uce.03.r.s@nurfuerspam.de> writes:
> On Mon, May 03 2004, Jonas Steverud wrote:
>
>> Markus Knittig <dev-null@knittig.de> writes:
> [...]
>>> Customize mm-body-charset-encoding-alist. E.g.:
>>
>> (setq mm-coding-system-priorities '(iso-latin-1 utf-8)) has something
>> to do with it as well, doesn't it?
>
> Content-Type != Content-Transfer-Encoding
Huh? Can't say that I understood that. AFAICT both
mm-body-charset-encoding-alist and mm-coding-system-priorities both
are for encoding, at least after reading the output from C-h v.
Either the documentation of those variables are incomplete or I have
misunderstood something fundamental.
Could you please explain?
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( Meaning of U2 Lyrics, Roleplaying ! To Do Without Do )
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