From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/85325 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Davis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Mutt/Gnus hybrid for mail? 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Fraga's message of "Tue, 9 Dec 2014 16:15:51 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (darwin) X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85325 Archived-At: Eric S Fraga writes: > On Tuesday, 9 Dec 2014 at 09:34, Peter Davis wrote: > >> Yes, I'm aware of that. I mentioned this mutt behavior because, if I can >> somehow get gnus to actually display the next message, then being on the >> last message in the Summary would require special handling. > > Does it not display the next message with n or space? Is it only when > you type E that you don't get the behaviour you want? Maybe do as > others have suggested and look at automatic expiration of emails. Assuming that I can find some way to program a key to expire a message and open the next one (ie, display it in the Article buffer) automatically, it would need to be aware that if I expire the last message in the summary, there's no next message to display, so it should just do nothing in that case. That's what I was trying to convey. I'm not interested in auto expiry. I want to look at each message and choose to either save or delete it and move on to the next. That's all I'm trying to do. In mutt, this is easy. > >> For me, Summary only shows the unread messages, and not even the rest of >> the threads they belong to (unless I type 'A T'). > > Again, have you tried the agent? No, I have not tried agent. I'm not really looking for unplugged use, but perhaps that's the workaround for getting gnus to display the already read messages. > > From C-h c / s: > > / s runs the command gnus-summary-limit-to-subject > > i.e. not search but limit so the same as mutt. There are a whole set of > / options. Type / C-h in the summary window and you'll see them > all. Unlike mutt (IIRC), these are cumulative but you can pop back out > of each one. Nice. Thanks! If I ever get gnus to display more in the Summary buffer, this will be useful. > >> ;; @see http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/gnus/Expiring-Mail.html >> ;; press 'E' to expire email >> (setq nnmail-expiry-target "INBOX.Trash") >> (setq nnmail-expiry-wait 'immediate) > > You can set individual configurations for groups in the Group buffer by > typing "G c" to bring up a configuration window. > >> (setq-default >> gnus-summary-line-format "%U%R%z %(%&user-date; %-15,15f %B%s%)\n" >> gnus-user-date-format-alist '((t . "%Y-%m-%d %H:%M")) >> gnus-summary-thread-gathering-function 'gnus-gather-threads-by-references > > I use 'gnus-gather-threads-by-subject. Maybe try this to see if the > threads get built up for you? > > Are you actually in threaded mode, by the way? What happens if you type > T T? I think I've tried most of these combinations, but I'll keep at it. Thanks, -pd