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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:60245 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:63772 Archived-At: On Sat, 09/23/2006 19:18 +0100, Chong Yidong wrote: > After some further communication with Leon, I think I know the > problem: accept-process-output is called by the timer function > `gnus-demon' (which is a valid but IIUC not commonly-used component of > Gnus). However, as documented in the Lisp Reference manual: > > Emacs binds `inhibit-quit' to `t' before calling the timer > function, because quitting out of many timer functions can leave > things in an inconsistent state. This is normally unproblematical > because most timer functions don't do a lot of work. Indeed, for a > timer to call a function that takes substantial time to run is > likely to be annoying. > > The result in this case is that this accept-process-output can't be > interrupted, and Emacs can hang if the process doesn't reply (e.g., if > the connection dies). > > I'm not sure what the best way to handle this is. Anyone? The ChangeLog says it's fixed. But I can't see the actually fix. gnus-demon.el has not been changed for 7 month. -- Leo