From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/57902 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jonas Steverud Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: spam.el - ham in spam groups Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 11:06:50 +0200 Organization: The Deciples of Albericht Nibelungen Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <874qpbwc6k.fsf@kali.intranet> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1087463286 10443 80.91.224.253 (17 Jun 2004 09:08:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 09:08:06 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M6443@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Jun 17 11:07:58 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BassI-0004t1-00 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 11:07:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1Basqv-0007Dp-00; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 04:06:33 -0500 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1Basqk-0007Dj-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 04:06:22 -0500 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Basqj-0005qB-QO for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 04:06:21 -0500 Original-Received: from mxfep01.bredband.com (mxfep01.bredband.com [195.54.107.70]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A67EA3A0047 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 04:06:16 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from c-9a5372d5.036-4-67626721.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se.bredband.net ([213.114.83.173] [213.114.83.173]) by mxfep01.bredband.com with ESMTP id <20040617090614.HNGK3131.mxfep01.bredband.com@c-9a5372d5.036-4-67626721.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se.bredband.net> for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 11:06:14 +0200 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Mail-Copies-To: never In-Reply-To: <874qpbwc6k.fsf@kali.intranet> (Marcelo Toledo's message of "Wed, 16 Jun 2004 16:11:15 -0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/21.3 (darwin) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:57902 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:57902 Marcelo Toledo writes: > I dont know if there is a reason for this but I think all this steps > should't exist. If there is ham in spam it must be repooled again and > not moved to another group that has nothing to do with. On my nnfolder:Spam group, I have the Group Parameter (ham-process-destination respool) which respools the article on group exit. > And more, it must be spooled but it can't pass through spam-split again, > because if I marked it as ham there is no need test again. Why *can't* it be ran through spam-split? Your filter has been told it is ham (I assume you train it on exit) so it should pass through spam-split without problem. If it ends up in the spam group again it is just a good thing to retrain the filter. See the redundant spam-split pass as a check that the training went all right. I don't think that it is a way of telling the splitting to "*this* rule shall not be applied to *this* email" - it might be possible by adding a user defined function in a : construct to check if it should be sent to spam-split or not, but I think it is more work then it is worth. You loose some performance on running spam-split but I think you have to live with it. OTOH, it takes you longer to read the email then to respool it through spam-split... ;-) HTH. /Jonas -- ( http://hem.bredband.net/steverud/ ! Wei Wu Wei ) ( Meaning of U2 Lyrics, Roleplaying ! To Do Without Do )