auto-expire strangeness?

auto-expire strangeness?

[Kai Grossjohann]

Selecting an article marked "O" for reading marks this article as
expirable when in an auto-expirable group.

Why is this so?

I mark articles as read to save them on my disk for later perusal, so
reading an "O" article and having that suddenly be marked as expirable
is not what I want.

Another thing: if I have no new and no ticked articles in a group,
entering the group automatically shows me both the "O" and the
expirable articles.  Is there a way to tell Gnus not to show me the
expirable articles?

I quite like the fact that summary buffers are usually much smaller
with this mechanism, though.

kai
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Re: auto-expire strangeness?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Kai Grossjohann <grossjohann@ls6.cs.uni-dortmund.de> writes:

> Selecting an article marked "O" for reading marks this article as
> expirable when in an auto-expirable group.
> 
> Why is this so?

I don't know.  I certainly find it annoying.

Anybody remember why this was done?  Should I change it?

> Another thing: if I have no new and no ticked articles in a group,
> entering the group automatically shows me both the "O" and the
> expirable articles.  Is there a way to tell Gnus not to show me the
> expirable articles?

Not at present.  It's on the todo list, though.

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  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: auto-expire strangeness?

[Kai Grossjohann]

>>>>> Kai Grossjohann <grossjohann@ls6.cs.uni-dortmund.de> writes:
  Kai> Selecting an article marked "O" for reading marks this article as
  Kai> expirable when in an auto-expirable group.

  Kai> Why is this so?

>>>>> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes:
  Lars> I don't know.  I certainly find it annoying.
  Lars> Anybody remember why this was done?  Should I change it?

I got a response from somebody (sorry I forgot your name) who told me
that you told him about gnus-mark-article-hook:

,-----
| ;; Use this for auto-expire only.                                   
| (remove-hook 'gnus-mark-article-hook                                
|              'gnus-summary-mark-read-and-unread-as-read)            
| (add-hook 'gnus-mark-article-hook 'gnus-summary-mark-unread-as-read)
`-----

I'm happy with this solution.
kai
-- 
Life is hard and then you die.

Re: auto-expire strangeness?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Kai Grossjohann <grossjohann@ls6.cs.uni-dortmund.de> writes:

> I got a response from somebody (sorry I forgot your name) who told me
> that you told him about gnus-mark-article-hook:
> 
> ,-----
> | ;; Use this for auto-expire only.                                   
> | (remove-hook 'gnus-mark-article-hook                                
> |              'gnus-summary-mark-read-and-unread-as-read)            
> | (add-hook 'gnus-mark-article-hook 'gnus-summary-mark-unread-as-read)
> `-----

I've now added this to the manual.

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(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen