From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/87281 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Dave Abrahams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: gnus-cloud work Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 11:27:06 -0700 Message-ID: References: <86d1m3f60a.fsf@dod.no> <87oa5l50uw.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87fuqx7gwz.fsf@linux-m68k.org> <87a8h5jgl0.fsf@lifelogs.com> <86a8h47r32.fsf@dod.no> <87zip4iizk.fsf@lifelogs.com> <867fc8jl69.fsf@dod.no> <8637mwjkjk.fsf@dod.no> <87fuqwgp1q.fsf@lifelogs.com> <86vazshzbp.fsf@dod.no> <8760rrgozv.fsf@lifelogs.com> <8660rrhy0z.fsf@dod.no> <87fuqtg9z2.fsf@lifelogs.com> <86wpk51y1t.fsf@dod.no> <87zip1ek37.fsf@lifelogs.com> <86shut1o8s.fsf@dod.no> <86eg6cnpwx.fsf@dod.no> <87lh0ge9mz.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87r38eg29w.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1475260119 22527 195.159.176.226 (30 Sep 2016 18:28:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 18:28:39 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.2.50 (darwin) Cc: Ted Zlatanov To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M35501@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Sep 30 20:28:35 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bq2Xo-00044o-9v for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 30 Sep 2016 20:28:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bq2Wr-00039I-Vf; Fri, 30 Sep 2016 13:27:26 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bq2Wp-00038k-DV for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 30 Sep 2016 13:27:23 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bq2Wj-0003xd-R7 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 30 Sep 2016 13:27:23 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-f52.google.com ([209.85.220.52]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1bq2Wi-0003YL-6R for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 30 Sep 2016 20:27:16 +0200 Original-Received: by mail-pa0-f52.google.com with SMTP id dw4so27166120pac.1 for ; Fri, 30 Sep 2016 11:27:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=boostpro-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=UC5igBLMCR7PIpM6XEMUocG/KHaU2EJDMMIBydLBWlM=; b=wRvEJ7Q0i+rC1Oq42MOjE9HdkLx3+I/H4mfemvTXd5qsAZUlCHggiCp9lNI3zx9mHz fG8RyHL08rJx9qiVhFhQ4Q3xL7yJw4SUEc6pazy0l6NcjNW+wEXrxUdZTqmtN7r9D3XV ixVaslrZF9s3xONinMoURbyDlb8JSEK2Gj6iR4xIrJObC1soaRPt+Mvgfy8r2GVETVqT pCwBLospifRODiyplfT/nuFI1buTI6z5rYqTzuuzlRbnFiBpljlIObOdcSNLU79eplvd yMdXUsTmYZvXiCuGNp2X11IT/F6dcx3dbAMV3LnWsNhG3/T00nhsYuTLkU0wQ/DZguQI NVWQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=UC5igBLMCR7PIpM6XEMUocG/KHaU2EJDMMIBydLBWlM=; b=Fk2IivYNvWIq3/w0sAhVhPSs1ngrLiB8czhyurn6GGxAyEwso+TBakxEgXTcKbW7X6 fwz2A9t+KRvra/lEJq/29Yy0ATGClr/Xc8EgYW4RCxWAdtgtVfIvP9sZBs/1BsDR46rg pjmeNhtZIfByKTgMeylG5zeNn/lVYXqilmntlHo/lzRiO+HTaJBhn9voiZT8/iYPqodo 4dFgxRMgok1MGZQ7IVLEaq0yDYBN3koEvotoNtpBWg7+RhkEbYZJIbU0kS2c1JfpgbTu HMDZuX5N2EZOlspbb8klOh9ju4BlrOhEfw2s0NxAaEzmCA4hL4jmzjImUlVMWtMwWxVC cwcg== X-Gm-Message-State: AA6/9RmN6XIo/jDF9wmPqRaRTt9Zrp4TesFPwVorDDbrPUBcWSPtqtANl2+5t6PHmjbZBA== X-Received: by 10.66.232.164 with SMTP id tp4mr13817760pac.29.1475260028568; Fri, 30 Sep 2016 11:27:08 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from Wingy.local ([17.212.147.205]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f67sm7832353pfg.88.2016.09.30.11.27.07 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Fri, 30 Sep 2016 11:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by Wingy.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 3BDA4183E4CBA; Fri, 30 Sep 2016 11:27:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87r38eg29w.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Tue, 20 Sep 2016 08:54:19 -0400") List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:87281 Archived-At: on Tue Sep 20 2016, Ted Zlatanov wrote: > On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 17:06:32 -0700 Dave Abrahams wrot= e:=20 > > DA> on Mon Aug 01 2016, Ted Zlatanov wrote: > >>> On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 22:35:26 +0200 Steinar Bang wrote:=20 >>>=20 > SB> How do you plan to handle Emacs-Cloud cleanup? With 10 messages in it, > SB> my folder is using sligthly less than 1MB of disk... not much, but wi= th > SB> frequent saves that could add up. >>>=20 >>> It's not really a concern, but you can set up Gnus total expiry if you >>> are worried. > > DA> Is emacs-25.1 recent enough to have the latest gnus-cloud support? > > Gnus is part of the Emacs source code. But the work I did in July was > too late for the 25.1 release (yes, that's a pain). You should just > check out and compile the latest master, it's really easy. > > DA> What are the steps to try it out? > > The docs have been added: > > (info "(gnus) The Gnus Cloud") Hi Ted, I'm having two problems, now: first, every time I try to upload or download with gnus-cloud, GPG is asking me for a passphrase, and even when I tick the =E2=80=9Csave in keychain=E2=80=9D checkbox I'm offered, it= keeps asking, every time. 'Scuse my GPG na=C3=AFvet=C3=A9, but is there a way to= get this to stop? Second, it doesn't seem to have any effect. I have 44 unread messages on this machine from gmane.comp.lang.swift.evolution. When I upload from here and then download to another machine, I still have 167 unread messages in that group. Lastly, I have some questions:=20 a. what's the effect supposed to be if I forget to upload the data and do some reading elsewhere? Is there a way of merging marks, or...? b. how much of my Gnus configuration is supposed to get saved? I'd kinda rather keep everything. c. does gnus-cloud handle something that wouldn't be covered by keeping my entire ~/News and ~/Mail directories cloud-synced by other means? Thanks, --=20 -Dave