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From: Dave Abrahams <dave@boostpro.com>
To: Tassilo Horn <tassilo@member.fsf.org>
Cc: James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com>,
	 ding@gnus.org,  John Wiegley <johnw@boostpro.com>
Subject: Re: [The saga continues...] This bug is killing me!
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:07:12 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2wrdu5zan.fsf_-_@boostpro.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ty8y906n.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> (Tassilo Horn's message of "Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:19:44 +0200")


on Tue Aug 30 2011, Tassilo Horn <tassilo-AT-member.fsf.org> wrote:

> Dave Abrahams <dave@boostpro.com> writes:
>
>>>>> BTW: I think, that the default of this variable should be t
>>>>> nowadays,
>>>
>>> Mark propagation is not universally supported.  
>>
>> By what? (not challenging; just not understanding yet).
>
> By backends: Server-side marks are something that's basically only
> supported by IMAP (and thus the nnimap backend).
>
>>> Setting it to t would certainly break things here.
>>
>> Where; what things?
>
> I don't know the answer but have another question: if it would break
> things, why is it a defcustom then?  And if only nnimap supports mark
> propagation, and the code already has an exception to enable MP for IMAP
> servers (*), why do we have that variable anyway?
>
> (*) ... which doesn't seem to work for Dave ...
>
>>> Gnus needs to work correcly with gnus-propagate-marks nil.
>>
>> Perhaps so.  Can you define what "correctly" means in this case?
>
> Marks should be propagated to your IMAP server, no matter the value of
> that variable.  And what we've discovered so far is that this seems to
> happen when you mark an article and then exit the summary, while the
> mark is lost when you hit M-g, thus updating the summary without exiting
> it.
>
> Well, that's at least some perimeter of the issue.  I have no clue about
> all that backend code, but hopefully someone who has is helped on with
> it.

Okay, so I just exited Gnus and decided to answer `n' to the "update
summary buffer INBOX" question.  Restarted Emacs and Gnus and nearly all
my marks were gone, even in some NNTP groups.  So I set (and saved)
`gnus-propagate-marks' back to nil, and did a `M-g', and all my marks
came back.  

something-is-rotten-in-the-state-of-Denmark-ly y'rs,

-- 
Dave Abrahams
BoostPro Computing
http://www.boostpro.com



  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-08-30 22:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-29 21:51 Dave Abrahams
2011-08-30  7:01 ` Tassilo Horn
2011-08-30  9:27   ` Robert Pluim
2011-08-30 10:12     ` Tassilo Horn
2011-08-30  9:33   ` [Workaround/Solved] " Dave Abrahams
2011-08-30 10:18     ` Tassilo Horn
2011-08-30 10:33       ` Dave Abrahams
2011-08-30 11:20         ` Tassilo Horn
2011-08-30 18:09           ` Dave Abrahams
2011-08-30 18:17             ` Tassilo Horn
2011-09-10 21:59         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-30 10:39       ` Dave Abrahams
2011-08-30 11:50         ` Tassilo Horn
2011-08-30 18:40           ` Dave Abrahams
2011-08-30 15:04     ` James Cloos
2011-08-30 19:02       ` Dave Abrahams
2011-08-30 19:19         ` Tassilo Horn
2011-08-30 19:53           ` Dave Abrahams
2011-08-30 22:07           ` Dave Abrahams [this message]
2011-09-10 22:01             ` [The saga continues...] " Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-30 21:36         ` [Workaround/Solved] " James Cloos
2011-08-31  6:40           ` Dave Abrahams
2011-08-31  7:51           ` Tassilo Horn
2011-08-31  8:27             ` James Cloos
2011-08-31 16:51 ` Andrew Cohen
2011-08-31 19:49   ` Dave Abrahams
2011-08-31 20:05     ` Andrew Cohen
2011-09-10 22:01   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-09-10 22:12     ` Andrew Cohen
2011-09-10 22:11       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

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