From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/75408 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tommy Kelly Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Just shoot me now Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 10:30:33 -0600 Message-ID: References: <87bp4es21b.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <82r5d9ajlm.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1293035468 30112 80.91.229.12 (22 Dec 2010 16:31:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 16:31:08 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M23760@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Dec 22 17:31:03 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PVRaf-0001ln-Ic for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 17:31:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PVRaU-00063E-1h; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 10:30:50 -0600 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PVRaS-000633-9m for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 10:30:48 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PVRaR-0006Z9-3k for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 10:30:48 -0600 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PVRaQ-0004x1-E0 for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 17:30:46 +0100 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PVRaQ-0001cq-3L for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 17:30:46 +0100 Original-Received: from cpe-70-112-150-104.austin.res.rr.com ([70.112.150.104]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 17:30:46 +0100 Original-Received: from tommy.kelly by cpe-70-112-150-104.austin.res.rr.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 17:30:46 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 44 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpe-70-112-150-104.austin.res.rr.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.2 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:EvoWTbUy3Sk0DiQ5viDhbXTcTwY= X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:75408 Archived-At: Sivaram Neelakantan writes: > Funnily, mail splitting worked for me the first time I tried apart > from a few minor misses. But mine were simple ones > > (setq nnmail-split-methods > '(("sas-l" "^Subject:.*SAS-L*") > ;; ("ctan-ann" "^From:.*ctan-ann*") > ("mail.misc" ""))) > > is all I did. Ah but see that's simple splitting. That's for girls (cue slaps for sexism and threats to get Sacha Chua to kick my ass). Real Men use *fancy* splitting. And it's fancy splitting that's destroying my will to live. :-) > WhyTF, I didn't > understand it the first time around or for that matter many other > times before, I don't know. Exactly right. It's normal, once you become more expert to forget what it was like to be a newb. But a key component of writing good docs, much as in good teaching, is precisely the ability to rewind your mind to that first time around, remember what it was like to not know what you now know, and to plot a path forwards for the newbie. Most people find that hard. The few that can are called good teachers. The very best of those are called Richard Feynman. > Of course, the fault is mostly mine that I make feeble attempts at > learning elisp.... Well yes and no. To me it's not unreasonable that if you want to get to grips with the dark underbelly of Gnus (or anything in emacs) you have to roll your sleeves up and dig into lisp. But that doesn't mean the documentation is fine. Again -- lest Lars, Andreas and the other Noble Writers Of Code get fed up with what may seem like whining, just keep hacking guys. You are much appreciated. Tommy