From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/75396 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tommy Kelly Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: What's wrong with this fancy split? Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 06:26:00 -0600 Message-ID: References: <87k4j2k7nh.fsf@windlord.stanford.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1293020802 21310 80.91.229.12 (22 Dec 2010 12:26:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 12:26:42 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M23748@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Dec 22 13:26:38 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PVNmA-00017m-1u for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 13:26:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PVNlr-0004lS-Bb; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 06:26:19 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PVNlp-0004lH-Kb for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 06:26:17 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PVNlo-00041m-3Z for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 06:26:17 -0600 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PVNln-0000DT-Df for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 13:26:15 +0100 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PVNln-0000yl-70 for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 13:26:15 +0100 Original-Received: from cpe-70-112-150-104.austin.res.rr.com ([70.112.150.104]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 13:26:15 +0100 Original-Received: from tommy.kelly by cpe-70-112-150-104.austin.res.rr.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 13:26:15 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 25 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpe-70-112-150-104.austin.res.rr.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.2 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:IKfCrrMkQsCNqxJj23F0EaICb6E= X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:75396 Archived-At: Andreas Schwab writes: > Steinar Bang writes: > >> In three words: keep it simple > > Then you should not use Gnus. That seems like a bit of a non sequitur. And in fact to be honest it risks being simply a cop out. Being as simple *as possible* is a sign of enginering and programming excellence. As Fred Brooks said, complexity is our business. So there's no need to add more of it ourselves. If that's not the case then here are some suggestions: a. Remove the documentation. All of it. b. Remove all the code comments c. Obfuscate all the lisp d. Encrypt it e. Let everyone answer all questions on this list in Esperanto. Do that until a majority are fluent in that language, then switch to Aramaic. Then Coptic. Keep changing as long as it takes to ensure that things are never simple. Tommy