From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/65550 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: encrypt.el in No Gnus 0.7 Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:27:39 -0600 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: References: <87zly3y4ru.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87odejy30k.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <54a15d860710311830s4fa203e3y53fbd6f51496f007@mail.gmail.com> <54a15d860711010824w6888aafdgb0a0e5d48f6fdebb@mail.gmail.com> <54a15d860711021949q14e59f94g68bc23c603e2923a@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1194226084 15343 80.91.229.12 (5 Nov 2007 01:28:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 01:28:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Miles Bader , ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Daiki Ueno" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 05 02:28:07 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Ioql2-0001gp-KA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 02:28:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ioqkr-0006Ms-Ut for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:27:53 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ioqko-0006Ml-Hv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:27:50 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ioqkn-0006MZ-0U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:27:49 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ioqkm-0006MW-S9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:27:48 -0500 Original-Received: from blockstar.com ([170.224.69.95] helo=mail.blockstar.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ioqkj-0005iK-0w; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:27:45 -0500 Original-Received: from mungo.local (c-67-186-103-18.hsd1.il.comcast.net [67.186.103.18]) by mail.blockstar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2132A3F853F; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 17:49:06 -0800 (PST) X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Followup-To: "Daiki Ueno" , emacs-devel@gnu.org, ding@gnus.org, "Miles Bader" In-Reply-To: <54a15d860711021949q14e59f94g68bc23c603e2923a@mail.gmail.com> (Daiki Ueno's message of "Sat, 3 Nov 2007 11:49:50 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/22.1.50 (darwin) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:82530 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:65550 Archived-At: On Sat, 3 Nov 2007 11:49:50 +0900 "Daiki Ueno" wrote: DU> 2007/11/2, Ted Zlatanov : DU> I think encrypt-file-alist is too much custamisable since GnuPG DU> records what cipher is used to encrypt in the PGP message. See DU> RFC2440. >> >> Again, you're tightly bound to GnuPG. Does EasyPG support arbitrary, >> user-supplied ciphers? I didn't see that ability. DU> I doubt that the ability is worth considering. Who wants to use DU> user-supplied ciphers which are appearantly weaker than ones GnuPG DU> supports? The proper question is, why don't you let the users use the ciphers and external utilities they want? You are assuming that every Emacs user will a) install GnuPG, and b) find it adequate. Furthermore, you're basing your "apparently weaker" argument on an example XOR implementation I supplied to show the API, which is unfair. Ted