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@ 2007-07-06 16:53 ` Ted Zlatanov
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From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2007-07-06 16:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: Peter Russell, Ding Mailing List

The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to gnu.emacs.gnus as well.

On Mon, 21 May 2007 11:31:56 GMT Peter Russell <peter.russell@qustom.co.uk> wrote: 

PR> There are two things I'd like to achieve:

PR> 1. Since these addresses have different profiles, I'd like to use
PR>    different bogofilter databases for them.  However as far as I can
PR>    see there is only one global setting for the database file.  Is
PR>    this possible - if it isn't now, it worth adding?

Hi Peter,

sorry for the late reply.  I cc-ed your e-mail address to make sure
you'd get it.

You can put any Lisp code in the (: ) rule, so you could redefine
spam-bogofilter-database-directory temporarily.  Something like this

(let ((spam-bogofilter-database-directory "hello"))
  (message spam-bogofilter-database-directory))

(message spam-bogofilter-database-directory)

Use C-x C-e after the last parenthesis of these two expressions.  The
first one temporarily sets spam-bogofilter-database-directory to
"hello".  So, we can do a rule like this:

(: let ((spam-bogofilter-database-directory "your favorite setting"))
     (spam-split "INBOX.Support Requests.spam"))

This is untested, but it should work (I am CC-ing the Gnus developer
list in case someone has a better suggestion).  You could always write
your own function that wraps spam-split, if you don't like the solution
above.

PR> 2. Since I need to check support request spam (for example) more often
PR>    and more carefully than main INBOX spam, I want to set up some
PR>    specific spam folders, which are linked to their parent folders.  I
PR>    have this almost working.

PR> For number 2, the tree and rules should be something like this:

PR> INBOX                       <- All mail is delivered here
PR> INBOX.spam                  <- The default place to drop spam.
PR>                                Checked infrequently 
PR> INBOX.Support Requests      <- some mail is split here
PR> INBOX.Support Requests.spam <- Spam to the support requests addr. goes
PR>                                here. Checked often.
PR> INBOX.Lists...              <- Spam that would otherwise be split to
PR>                                other folders should go to INBOX.spam

PR> (I hope the formatting of that comes out OK, message mode seems to
PR> handle indenting text very nicely :-) )

PR> What I currently have in my gnus.el is this:

PR> ;; We want spam checking!
PR> (spam-initialize)
PR> (setq spam-use-bbdb t
PR>       spam-use-regex-headers t
PR>       spam-use-bogofilter t)

PR> ;; This doesn't work!  What I hoped it would do is to say "If a folder
PR> ;; doesn't end in .spam then it's a ham folder, and any spam in it
PR> ;; should be moved to the same folder name, but with .spam appended.
PR> ;; If it does end in .spam, it's a spam folder, and any ham should be
PR> ;; moved to the folder with the same name, but without the .spam.  Not
PR> ;; exactly what I describe above, but close enough.  As it is, I don't
PR> ;; believe it's doing anything at all.  I have no idea how to debug
PR> ;; this.
PR> (setq gnus-parameters
PR>       '(("^\\(nnimap\\+mail.qustom.co.uk:INBOX.*\\)$"
PR>          (spam-contents . gnus-group-spam-classification-ham)
PR>          (spam-process-destination . "\\1.spam")
PR>       '(("^\\(nnimap\\+mail.qustom.co.uk:INBOX.*\\)\\.spam$"
PR>          (spam-contents . gnus-group-spam-classification-spam)
PR>          (ham-process-destination . "\\1")

You can debug the rules with (gnus-parameter-spam-contents "GROUP").

For instance, your rules would probably return
'gnus-group-spam-classification-spam for this call:

(gnus-parameter-spam-contents "nnimap+mail.qustom.co.uk:INBOX.*.spam")

I personally find it easier to a) make a group a spam group when the
name contains the string "spam", and b) use topics and topic/group
parameters to set parameters as needed.  Your way should work, but it
seems harder to me :)

Ted




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