From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/52123 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Harry Putnam Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Overbearing undownloaded face Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 19:37:51 -0700 Organization: Still searching... Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87wuha9kpf.fsf@enberg.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1051843032 4303 80.91.224.249 (2 May 2003 02:37:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 02:37:12 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M666@lists.math.uh.edu Fri May 02 04:37:10 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19BQQA-00017G-00 for ; Fri, 02 May 2003 04:37:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19BQR4-0003Wl-00; Thu, 01 May 2003 21:38:06 -0500 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com ([64.157.176.121]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19BQQw-0003Wf-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 01 May 2003 21:37:58 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 2442 invoked by alias); 2 May 2003 02:37:58 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 2437 invoked from network); 2 May 2003 02:37:58 -0000 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org (80.91.224.249) by sclp3.sclp.com with SMTP; 2 May 2003 02:37:58 -0000 Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19BQPh-000156-00 for ; Fri, 02 May 2003 04:36:41 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19BQPf-00014o-00 for ; Fri, 02 May 2003 04:36:39 +0200 Original-Lines: 36 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.09002 (Oort Gnus v0.20) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:SMMLNo6h8id81TjLfvADx3sgFRQ= Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:52123 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:52123 Henrik Enberg writes: > Harry Putnam writes: > >> Is it a local problem or is it intended to work this way? If the >> latter how would I override or disable this behavior? > > Customize gnus-summary-{low,high}-undownloaded-face. I agree that the > default is a bit overwhelming. Maybe I'm not following you here. But first what determines a high interest undownloaded or low interest undownloaded? Does it involve scoring? (I don't use scoring) I did customize the normal-undownloaded but that has no bearing on the real problem. That is, the faces associated with other marks are not possible unless the article is downloaded. (read, ticked etc) Does customizing low high somehow affect that problem?. Are you able to mark undownloaded messages as read, ticked, dormant etc and see a face change? Many of the groups under my agentized server are in default category which I have predicated to false. I don't want to download them but do want to read them online (plugged) and be allowed to have faces associated with read, ticked, dormant etc be used. The fact that the group is under an agentized server shouldn't break those faces. What I see is that in those default (false) category groups messages will never be downloaded so all the normal gnus faces for read, ticked etc are useless. Surely this is not the intent of the overpowering undownloaded face? We used to be able to have groups only read online coexist with agentized groups and have no face conflict. Now it appears that will only work if the groups are on different servers, one agentize the other not.