From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/22292 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: SL Baur Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: comments on pgnus-v0.80 Date: 07 Apr 1999 03:58:35 -0700 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035160240 28580 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 00:30:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 00:30:40 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from farabi.math.uh.edu (farabi.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.57]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA12567 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 07:01:16 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by farabi.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAB27290; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 06:00:39 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 07 Apr 1999 06:00:51 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA06706 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 06:00:43 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from demeter.xemacs.org (cas0-148.snlo.dialup.callamer.com [206.190.93.148]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA12560 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 07:00:34 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (from steve@localhost) by demeter.xemacs.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id DAA11235; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 03:58:35 -0700 (PDT) Mail-Copies-To: never Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Attribution: sb User-Agent: Gnus/5.07008 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.80) XEmacs/21.0(beta67) (20 minutes to =?iso-2022-jp-2?b?GyRCRnw4dxsoQg==?=) Original-Lines: 50 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:22292 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:22292 Some miscellaneous comments after trying out the latest edition of Pterodactyl Gnus. * Group entry appears to be substantially faster than with Gnus 5.6+tm. * Escape Quoted is not a wise default for a coding system and can lead to lossage[1]. It is probably better to let the editor decide which coding system to use. * The MIME display defaults are unintuitive. Could you please make them more Netscapish? In particular, every MIME type that can be displayed inline, should be displayed inline by default, at least in XEmacs. It's what most users have come to expect. * Notwithstanding the previous item and the coolness of Lars' presentation, I'm not sure I like handing html parts to W3 as a default. It was pretty cool that tm blanked it out -- html doesn't belong in either mail or news. How fast does this all work on slow(er) machines? W3 flies on Demeter, but that's not exactly a fair test yet. * Displaying html, even with a properly specified charset of ISO-2022-JP, loses contained Japanese text. See http://www.xemacs.org/~slb/305 for a message that exhibits this lossage. I put a screen snippet of what I see at: http://www.xemacs.org/~slb/mojibake.jpg * There doesn't appear to be any obvious way to send message/rfc822 subparts. The inability of tm to rationally deal with this MIME type is its biggest failing IMO. * There needs to be a more descriptive error message about the incompatible change to the `nnmail-spool-file' variable. A pointer to the manual (which contains good detail on this) would be fine, but I got a `wrong-type argument listp, procmail' beep the first time through. * The broken `Attach file as MIME' function in the Message menu should have a default keybinding. How about C-c C-x TAB? * It would be nice to have a preview function as in tm to see what a message looks like before sending it out. If one already exists, it should be added to the Message menu. Footnotes: [1] In particular, with XEmacs/Mule running under a Japanese locale, included Japanese text isn't handled properly. I've submitted a bug report for this.