From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/12192 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Some thoughts on NoCeM and switching servers Date: 20 Sep 1997 20:13:32 +0200 Message-ID: References: <199709181429.KAA11098@kyoto.intertv.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035151771 2384 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 22:09:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 22:09:31 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from xemacs.org (xemacs.cs.uiuc.edu [128.174.252.16]) by altair.xemacs.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA25273 for ; Sat, 20 Sep 1997 13:27:35 -0700 Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (0@ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by xemacs.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA04775 for ; Sat, 20 Sep 1997 15:23:41 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from claymore.vcinet.com (claymore.vcinet.com [208.205.12.23]) by ifi.uio.no with SMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Sat, 20 Sep 1997 21:08:24 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 3930 invoked by uid 504); 20 Sep 1997 19:08:23 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 3927 invoked from network); 20 Sep 1997 19:08:23 -0000 Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (0@129.240.64.2) by claymore.vcinet.com with SMTP; 20 Sep 1997 19:08:22 -0000 Original-Received: from proletcult.slip.ifi.uio.no (larsi@xyplex02.uio.no [129.240.154.22]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Sat, 20 Sep 1997 21:08:20 +0200 Original-Received: (from larsi@localhost) by proletcult.slip.ifi.uio.no (8.8.2/8.8.2) id VAA28502; Sat, 20 Sep 1997 21:10:57 +0200 Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Scott Hofmann's message of "Thu, 18 Sep 1997 10:29:58 -0400" X-Mailer: Quassia Gnus v0.7/Emacs 19.34 X-Face: &w!^oO~dS|}-P0~ge{$c!h\ writes: > The first problem I had was in logging into the NNTP server. It's a > secure server that requires a login and password, so I initiallly > set nntp-authinfo-function to nntp-send-nosy-authinfo. When I ran > gnus, it did stuff in a backwards order: it connected to the NNTP > server, and then asked for the login information. That's what's supposed to happen -- the server asks for authinfo by issuing a "480" response, and Gnus is supposed to reply to that. But it sounds like there's a bug there somewhere, since it hangs. Could you `(setq debug-on-quit t)' and `C-g' when it starts spinning? Send me the resulting backtrace. > The second problem was with NoCeM. When there is no NoCeM/active > file, it would be nice if NoCeM behaved as if gnus-nocem-expiry-wait > was set to 0 - on my new NNTP server there were over 10,000 unread > messages in news.lists.filters alone, and given how slow my NNTP > connection is it would have taken gnus nearly 12 hours to read > news.lists.filters alone, much less alt.nocem.misc and the other > NoCeM groups. It seems like this could be fixed with a bit of elisp > - if NoCeM is creating its active file then it should consider all > NoCeM messages as "read" so that gnus doesn't spend hours and hours > reading NoCeM messages during gnus' first invocation on a new > server. But that might be what some people would want -- fetch all the NoCeM messages so that all spam would be NoCeM'ed out. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen