From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/31882 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Harry Putnam Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: nnir/freeWAIS-sf Date: 21 Jul 2000 15:04:22 -0700 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035168243 16622 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 02:44:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 02:44:03 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from fisher.math.uh.edu (fisher.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.35]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB365D051E for ; Fri, 21 Jul 2000 18:21:40 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by fisher.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAC01864; Fri, 21 Jul 2000 17:17:54 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Fri, 21 Jul 2000 17:16:51 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA17313 for ; Fri, 21 Jul 2000 17:16:32 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from mail.networkone.net (mail.networkone.net [209.144.112.75]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with SMTP id EE7A2D051E for ; Fri, 21 Jul 2000 18:17:04 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (qmail 3025 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2000 22:17:03 -0000 Original-Received: from adsl-116-86.ln.networkone.net (HELO reader.ptw.com) (209.144.116.86) by mail.networkone.net with SMTP; 21 Jul 2000 22:17:03 -0000 Original-Received: (from reader@localhost) by reader.ptw.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA00411; Fri, 21 Jul 2000 15:17:00 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: reader.ptw.com: reader set sender to reader@newsguy.com using -f Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE's message of "Fri, 21 Jul 2000 19:27:41 +0200" User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.5 Original-Lines: 64 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:31882 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:31882 Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Gro=DFjohann) writes: > On 20 Jul 2000, Harry Putnam wrote: >=20 > > bsd > waissearch -d mail 'global resounding and silence'=20 > >=20 > > Search Response: > > NumberOfRecordsReturned: 1 > > 1: Score: 2113, lines: 54 '2177 /home/reader/Mail/ding2/' > >=20 > > Seems to work... but wait.. that message contains neither > > `resounding' nor silence. >=20 > Whee. Hm. Maybe fwsf implements `and' in a fuzzy way. This is > useful for people who issue queries like `term1 and term2 and ... and > term10'. If there are no documents with all ten terms, chances are > that people will be happy with a document containing only nine of > them. It turns out it was finding `global' which looking at the query is legal enough. I should have had an `=3D' in there. But with either of these: waissearch -d mail global=3D'resounding and silence' waissearch -d mail resounding and silence No hits. What exactly does `GLOBAL' mean and how is that index accessed? Can one make a `free text' query using the nnir example *.fmt? it appears not. Which index holds `GLOBAL' data? [...] snipped tips on integrating tools into nnir ... Thanks > Maybe it could be integrated into nnir.el. Hm. Do you think that in > principle the idea of producing a summary buffer containing the search > results is a good idea? If so, it might be worth it to try to > integrate the two. Do you mean a buffer containing the string matches, not full messages? What would really be cool would be having both available. The ephemeral group assembled and a buffer similar to the emacs M-x grep buffer with hypertext that takes one to the exact hit. Since all gnus needs is the file names to generate the group maybe glimpse could be run with out the `-l' flag and let gnus snatch them out by regexp, allowing the other output to be available for such a buffer. [...] >=20 > (You might need a couple of variables, for example a variable for your > home dir, so that you can cut off the right prefix from the file > names. Can you understand the code in nnir-run-glimpse that does this?) Thanks for the tips on this but in truth its not likely I'll attempt it any time too soon. Fact is I'm no where near competent in any programming language.. let alone lisp. The only thing I can say I know even a small amount about is `awk' and its not a real programming language.