read-active-file some

read-active-file some

[Vinnie Shelton]

What is the problem with having gnus-read-active-file equal to 'some?
This stopped working somewhere along the line in rgnus, and it
doesn't work in 0.52, at least for me, under XEmacs 19.14.

--vin

Re: read-active-file some

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Vinnie Shelton  <shelton@icd.teradyne.com> writes:

> What is the problem with having gnus-read-active-file equal to 'some?
> This stopped working somewhere along the line in rgnus, and it
> doesn't work in 0.52, at least for me, under XEmacs 19.14.

I would appreciate it if somebody could take a look at this code in
nntp.el.  It apparently doesn't work for quite a lot of people, but I
have so far been unable to reproduce or fix the bug.  The functions to
peek at are `nntp-retrieve-groups' and `nntp-try-list-active'. 

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Re: read-active-file some

[Steven L Baur]

>>>>> "Lars" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no> writes:

> Vinnie Shelton  <shelton@icd.teradyne.com> writes:

Vinnie> What is the problem with having gnus-read-active-file equal to
Vinnie> 'some?  This stopped working somewhere along the line in
Vinnie> rgnus, and it doesn't work in 0.52, at least for me, under
Vinnie> XEmacs 19.14.

Lars> I would appreciate it if somebody could take a look at this code
Lars> in nntp.el.  It apparently doesn't work for quite a lot of
Lars> people, but I have so far been unable to reproduce or fix the
Lars> bug.  The functions to peek at are `nntp-retrieve-groups' and
Lars> `nntp-try-list-active'.

I did this once, and sent them to gnus-bug.  The test for the presence
of LIST ACTIVE GROUP is bogus.  I've been using

(setq nntp-server-list-active-group nil)

in .emacs as a workaround, and it works fine.
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Re: read-active-file some

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Steven L Baur <steve@miranova.com> writes:

> I did this once, and sent them to gnus-bug.  The test for the presence
> of LIST ACTIVE GROUP is bogus.  I've been using
> 
> (setq nntp-server-list-active-group nil)
> 
> in .emacs as a workaround, and it works fine.

Yes, but why does the test fail?  I thought I managed to fix the
problem... 

Hang on -- wasn't there a problem with the Netscape nntp server which
didn't return an error message when given the "LIST ACTIVE group"
command?  Uhm, yes:

(defvoo nntp-server-action-alist 
  '(("nntpd 1\\.5\\.11t" 
     (remove-hook 'nntp-server-opened-hook 'nntp-send-mode-reader))
    ("NNRP server Netscape" 
     (setq nntp-server-list-active-group nil))))

So that variable should be set to nil when using Netscape's server.
Doesn't that work?

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Re: read-active-file some

[Steven L Baur]

>>>>> "Lars" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no> writes:
>>>>> "sb" == Steven L Baur <steve@miranova.com> writes:

sb> I did this once, and sent them to gnus-bug.  The test for the presence
sb> of LIST ACTIVE GROUP is bogus.  I've been using
sb> 
sb> (setq nntp-server-list-active-group nil)
sb> 
sb> in .emacs as a workaround, and it works fine.

Lars> Yes, but why does the test fail?  I thought I managed to fix the
Lars> problem... 

Aieee!  The test doesn't fail on GNU Emacs, I just found out ... :-(

Lars> Hang on -- wasn't there a problem with the Netscape nntp server
Lars> which didn't return an error message when given the "LIST ACTIVE
Lars> group" command?  Uhm, yes:

Lars> (defvoo nntp-server-action-alist 
Lars>   '(("nntpd 1\\.5\\.11t" 
Lars>      (remove-hook 'nntp-server-opened-hook 'nntp-send-mode-reader))
Lars>     ("NNRP server Netscape" 
Lars>      (setq nntp-server-list-active-group nil))))

Lars> So that variable should be set to nil when using Netscape's server.
Lars> Doesn't that work?

It works on Emacs but not on XEmacs :-(.
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steve@miranova.com baur
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Re: read-active-file some

[Steven L Baur]

>>>>> "Lars" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no> writes:

Lars> Steven L Baur <steve@miranova.com> writes:
Lars> So that variable should be set to nil when using Netscape's server.
Lars> Doesn't that work?

sb> It works on Emacs but not on XEmacs :-(.

Lars> Hm.  I see that the function didn't bind `case-fold-search'.  (Fix in
Lars> Red Gnus v0.53.)  Could that be the cause?

If you mean:
===================================================================
RCS file: RCS/nntp.el,v
retrieving revision 1.26
diff -u -r1.26 nntp.el
--- nntp.el	1996/10/16 22:29:02	1.26
+++ nntp.el	1996/10/20 02:13:52
@@ -596,6 +596,7 @@
   ;; Wait for the status string to arrive.
   (setq nntp-server-type (buffer-string))
   (let ((alist nntp-server-action-alist)
+	(case-fold-search t)
 	entry)
     ;; Run server-specific commands.
     (while alist


Yes, that clears things up for me on XEmacs.

Now if only I can figure out how to make customize behave and save
some settings ...
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Re: read-active-file some

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Steven L Baur <steve@miranova.com> writes:

> Lars> So that variable should be set to nil when using Netscape's server.
> Lars> Doesn't that work?
> 
> It works on Emacs but not on XEmacs :-(.

Hm.  I see that the function didn't bind `case-fold-search'.  (Fix in
Red Gnus v0.53.)  Could that be the cause?

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