From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/6131 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Sudish Joseph" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Mail without `From:' lines Date: 04 May 1996 20:10:46 -0400 Sender: Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035146632 2653 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 20:43:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:43:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@ifi.uio.no Return-Path: ding-request@ifi.uio.no Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by deanna.miranova.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA01946 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 17:41:26 -0700 Original-Received: from VNET.IBM.COM (vnet.ibm.com [199.171.26.4]) by ifi.uio.no with SMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 02:11:25 +0200 Original-Received: from ATLSER by VNET.IBM.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 2389; Sat, 04 May 96 20:10:22 EDT Original-Received: by ATLSER (XAGENTA 4.0) id 3876; Sat, 4 May 1996 20:11:01 -0400 Original-Received: (from sj@localhost) by galaxy.atlissc.ibm.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA10066; Sat, 4 May 1996 20:10:46 -0400 Original-To: Per Abrahamsen In-Reply-To: Per Abrahamsen's message of 04 May 1996 03:37:19 +0200 Original-Lines: 36 X-Mailer: September Gnus v0.78/Emacs 19.30 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:6131 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:6131 Per Abrahamsen writes: > RFC 822 is irrelevant since a message without a "From: " is not an RFC > 822 message in the first place. Hardly. Not when your goal is to generate an 822 format message. The issue isn't what format the original crud is in, the issue is what format it will be transformed into. > The question is how to transform a piece of random junk in unix mbox > format into something resembling an RFC 822 message. Using the Just like it's Pine's intent to transform a random piece of junk into a format that's suitable for following up to as a USENET message. We all know how that went, never mind that Pine's usage of Newsgroup makes more sense in theory. > information in the `From ' message separator to generate a missing > `From:' and `Date:' header has worked fine for me when converting old > mbox.out files, and works fine for VM and many other mail agents. Hitting "r" on such a message is going to cause problems for anything other than personal mail (yes, that's 822 behaviour, but then your stated goal is to transform to 822 format). I have yet to see an MDA-generated UNIX From_ line contain anything other than the envelope sender (+ctime date), I'd be grateful if you showed me such an example. To put it simply: Anything that can be achieved by munging together a From: header by inspecting From_ can be done by inspecting From_ whenever you do not see a From:. If that doesn't please you, put the information in an X-Bogosity: header. Don't mess up a message that might later be processed by an agent other than GNUS. -Sudish