From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/79793 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dave Abrahams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: [Workaround/Solved] This bug is killing me! Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:53:13 -0800 Message-ID: References: <87pqjnqt5k.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <87ty8y906n.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1314734031 20188 80.91.229.12 (30 Aug 2011 19:53:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 19:53:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: James Cloos , ding@gnus.org, John Wiegley To: Tassilo Horn Original-X-From: ding-owner+M28087@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Aug 30 21:53:45 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QyUNU-0004TC-HD for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:53:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QyUNG-0001wy-Bp; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:53:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QyUND-0001wY-77 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:53:27 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1QyUNB-0007Wt-Qt for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:53:26 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pz0-f46.google.com ([209.85.210.46]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QyUN9-0005qz-5I for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:53:23 +0200 Original-Received: by pzk32 with SMTP id 32so12517929pzk.33 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:53:16 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.142.126.12 with SMTP id y12mr49066wfc.56.1314733996367; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:53:16 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from pluto.local (92-52-237-24.gci.net. [24.237.52.92]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f6sm6659407pbp.2.2011.08.30.12.53.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:53:15 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by pluto.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 28C72DB8458; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:53:13 -0800 (AKDT) In-Reply-To: <87ty8y906n.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> (Tassilo Horn's message of "Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:19:44 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/23.3 (darwin) X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:79793 Archived-At: > Dave Abrahams writes: > >>>>> BTW: I think, that the default of this variable should be t >>>>> nowadays, >>> >>> Mark propagation is not universally supported. >> >> By what? (not challenging; just not understanding yet). > > By backends: Server-side marks are something that's basically only > supported by IMAP (and thus the nnimap backend). Sure... but presumably having it set to t wouldn't hurt anything in the case where no propagation was possible. >>> Setting it to t would certainly break things here. >> >> Where; what things? > > I don't know the answer but have another question: if it would break > things, why is it a defcustom then? And if only nnimap supports mark > propagation, and the code already has an exception to enable MP for IMAP > servers (*), why do we have that variable anyway? > > (*) ... which doesn't seem to work for Dave ... > >>> Gnus needs to work correcly with gnus-propagate-marks nil. >> >> Perhaps so. Can you define what "correctly" means in this case? > > Marks should be propagated to your IMAP server, no matter the value of > that variable. And what we've discovered so far is that this seems to > happen when you mark an article and then exit the summary, while the > mark is lost when you hit M-g, thus updating the summary without exiting > it. [I note here that the docs for `M-g' say it exits the summary and re-enters it!] -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://www.boostpro.com