From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/73605 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Pittman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: (fake) unread messages using nnimap. Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 15:48:04 +1100 Message-ID: References: <874ocaioc0.fsf@gilgamesch.quim.ucm.es> <87pquy5r4v.fsf@gilgamesch.quim.ucm.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1288068920 13877 80.91.229.12 (26 Oct 2010 04:55:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 04:55:20 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M21974@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Oct 26 06:55:17 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PAbZ5-000281-1U for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 06:55:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PAbYZ-0002Gf-0o; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 23:54:43 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PAbYV-0002GM-Ss for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 23:54:39 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PAbYU-0008Ko-1o for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 23:54:39 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1PAbYT-0007jK-00 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 06:54:37 +0200 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PAbYQ-0001yK-BS for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 06:54:34 +0200 Original-Received: from ppp59-167-189-244.static.internode.on.net ([59.167.189.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 06:54:34 +0200 Original-Received: from daniel by ppp59-167-189-244.static.internode.on.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 06:54:34 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 45 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp59-167-189-244.static.internode.on.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:gsnILr+NDNi1bak1BKp02IuMKFg= X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:73605 Archived-At: Uwe Brauer writes: >>> Regarding Re: (fake) unread messages using nnimap.; >>> Daniel Pittman adds: > > >> > >> Does anybody know about this problem and what to do? > > > It could be any number of things, but one of the common > > issues with offlineimap that I have is: > > > When you add a new message to a group on the "client" > > side of an IMAP <=> IMAP sync pair, offlineimap will > > upload it to the server, delete it from the client, > > then add a new copy with an extra header. > > > Flags are preserved, though, so the message will show > > an a "new" item, but already be read when Gnus looks at > > it. This would show in any folder where you added > > messages with IMAP on the client side. > > > offlineimap with a mutable client side (eg: Maildir) > > doesn't show this problem because it doesn't need to > > delete and add a message to add the extra header. > > But isn't this also a dovecot issue then? I don't understand, but I doubt it: everything here is doing exactly what it says on the box, including the IMAP server, Dovecot, offline-imap, and Gnus. > It seems that you use such a configuration. I have set up my dovecot > offlineimap configuration more than a year ago and don't remember the > details. Could I change the setting? Can you tell me how. I don't understand what setting you are imagining changing, but I don't think it exists: Dovecot and offline-imap can't (to the best of my knowledge) be told to change the IMAP protocol or anything, so you are stuck with this nasty edge case. The new NNIMAP rewrite might help, but I don't actually know. Daniel -- ✣ Daniel Pittman ✉ daniel@rimspace.net ☎ +61 401 155 707 ♽ made with 100 percent post-consumer electrons