From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/57916 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Harry Putnam Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: wallowing out of the spam quagmire Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 13:27:55 -0500 Organization: Still searching... Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1087669755 15092 80.91.224.253 (19 Jun 2004 18:29:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 18:29:15 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M6457@lists.math.uh.edu Sat Jun 19 20:29:05 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BbkaO-0004oB-00 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 2004 20:29:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1BbkZY-0007F0-00; Sat, 19 Jun 2004 13:28:12 -0500 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1BbkZQ-0007Er-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 19 Jun 2004 13:28:04 -0500 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BbkZP-00047S-QQ for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 19 Jun 2004 13:28:03 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 142E93A0055 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 2004 13:28:01 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BbkZL-0004rg-00 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 2004 20:27:59 +0200 Original-Received: from adsl-68-74-182-61.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net ([68.74.182.61]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 2004 20:27:59 +0200 Original-Received: from reader by adsl-68-74-182-61.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 2004 20:27:59 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 39 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-68-74-182-61.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:x5PoSRdkmV3GvYA5vOHVWcLGuXo= Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:57916 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:57916 We all notice how bad it is getting spamwise... I'm about to give up with my old approach of running spamassassin and helping it out by assembling an ever more complex .procmailrc to take the heavy lifting. I've been doing it that way mainly because SA is quite expensive to run against LOTS of spam. Even without involving online data base checks. So ... I've been culling out the easy stuff with procmail. But its getting too hard to ID this stuff. I'd like to try the bogofilter approach in addition to my inplace spamassassin/procmail (doesn't involve gnus other than as mail reader) setup. (That setup does not involve contacting online data bases either) That is, I'd like to try the method where you have spam/ham groups inside gnus and invoke bogofilter on them, building up a bogofilter database. Listening to various posts on that it seems have all the earmarks of being a pain in the butt. I wondered if anyone can direct me to some examples of a setup like below or maybe even better, post their setup. Summary of possible setup: 1) procmail/SpamAssassin based pre filtering (before gnus) Then for whatever gets thru that barrier: (And here is where I'd like some help) 2) Inside gnus: Bogofilter based spam/ham database buiding tools. The old 1 2 punch... ===== I'd like to see some examples of point 2 that describe how this can be done.