From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/57189 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Matthias Andree Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: mx.gnus.org being very strict Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 12:10:45 +0200 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1083579129 16787 80.91.224.253 (3 May 2004 10:12:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 10:12:09 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M5729@lists.math.uh.edu Mon May 03 12:12:01 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BKaQb-0007uB-00 for ; Mon, 03 May 2004 12:12:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1BKaPa-0006uj-00; Mon, 03 May 2004 05:10:58 -0500 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1BKaPU-0006ue-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 03 May 2004 05:10:52 -0500 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BKaPT-0001PF-6i for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 03 May 2004 05:10:51 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de (mail.dt.e-technik.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.163.1]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B823A020F for ; Mon, 3 May 2004 05:10:50 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from m2a2.dyndns.org (krusty.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.163.1]) by mail.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 053D12AB15 for ; Mon, 3 May 2004 12:10:48 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by merlin.emma.line.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82A88B5610 for ; Mon, 3 May 2004 12:10:46 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from merlin.emma.line.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (m2a2.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 10305-01 for ; Mon, 3 May 2004 12:10:45 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by merlin.emma.line.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 7E3CAAD820; Mon, 3 May 2004 12:10:45 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 02 May 2004 15:11:22 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at m2a2.dyndns.org Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:57189 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:57189 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > Matthias Andree writes: > >> You MUST use proper MIME encoding. > > No, I mustn't. Who says you mustn't? Nobody. Who says you needn't? Show me. You can't expect other sites to accept broken mail. Sending non-US-ASCII in a non-MIME mail is "broken", see RFC-2822: mail is 7bit US-ASCII. The extension is MIME, RFC-2045..2049. How does the recipient know what character set the mail is in? If you don't care if your mail arrives, then of course you needn't send technically correct mail... but you're not in the position to complain about "very strict" sites. They just chose not to send garbage out by not allowing garbage in. No reason to complain. -- Matthias Andree Encrypted mail welcome: my GnuPG key ID is 0x052E7D95