From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/54734 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mark Plaksin Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Select methods versus Server buffer Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 11:06:09 -0500 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1068312702 21255 80.91.224.253 (8 Nov 2003 17:31:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:31:42 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M3275@lists.math.uh.edu Sat Nov 08 18:31:40 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AIWw0-0004is-00 for ; Sat, 08 Nov 2003 18:31:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AIWul-0003LR-00; Sat, 08 Nov 2003 11:30:23 -0600 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AIWI1-0003Af-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 08 Nov 2003 10:50:21 -0600 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 002533A0070 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:50:20 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from root by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AIWHz-0000nD-00 for ; Sat, 08 Nov 2003 17:50:19 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Received: from sea.gmane.org ([80.91.224.252]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AIVbF-0008Ot-00 for ; Sat, 08 Nov 2003 17:06:09 +0100 Original-Received: from news by sea.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AIVbF-0003GG-00 for ; Sat, 08 Nov 2003 17:06:09 +0100 Original-Lines: 30 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Z0W2UxWDzX8SHdMUMGMrENxnEuY= Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:54734 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:54734 What is the difference between setting the select-method variables and using the Server and Group buffers to get news and mail? Is there a difference? What's the relationship between the those variables and the server information stored with each group in .newsrc.eld? Everything seems to work fine with the select-method variables set to nil. I add servers via the Server buffer and subscribe to groups there or in the Group buffer. This worked well for me until just recently. I added a second nnimap server, some nnrss groups, and a bunch of nntp groups at gmane.org. Now when I '5 g' in the Group buffer, it doesn't always check all the groups. It doesn't check *any* nntp groups until I M-g on each group or on a topic containing the groups. I don't know that this is caused by my nil select-method variables but I've always doubted that they should be nil :) Also, can somebody explain the relationship between the properties of a server in the Server buffer and what gets saved into .newsrc.eld? Before I looked at .newsrc.eld, I thought that server information (i.e., the name and properties like nnimap-address) was stored in a server section. And each group had a pointer to the name of the server it came from. If a group had parameters intended to override the servers settings, they were stored with the group too. But it seems more like all of the server information is stored with each group in .newsrc.eld and the server buffer is the list of unique servers that show up in groups defined in .newsrc.eld. Thanks for any insight!