From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/43302 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christoph Rohland Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: What is happening in agentized groups? Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 14:10:57 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <2nsn7pnzy6.fsf@zsh.cs.rochester.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035178418 16894 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 05:33:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 05:33:38 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 5294 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2002 13:13:02 -0000 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu (mail@129.7.128.13) by mastaler.com with SMTP; 26 Feb 2002 13:13:02 -0000 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 16fhOQ-0001D9-00; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 07:11:42 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 26 Feb 2002 07:11:42 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA19930 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 07:11:31 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 5280 invoked by alias); 26 Feb 2002 13:11:26 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 5275 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2002 13:11:25 -0000 Original-Received: from smtpde02.sap-ag.de (194.39.131.53) by gnus.org with SMTP; 26 Feb 2002 13:11:25 -0000 Original-Received: from sap-ag.de (smtpde02) by smtpde02.sap-ag.de (out) with ESMTP id OAA28820 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 14:15:09 +0100 (MEZ) Original-To: ding@gnus.org Organisation: SAP LinuxLab In-Reply-To: (Simon Josefsson's message of "Mon, 25 Feb 2002 23:11:36 +0100") Original-Lines: 29 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090005 (Oort Gnus v0.05) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence, i386-suse-linux) X-SAP: out Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:43302 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:43302 Hi Simon, On Mon, 25 Feb 2002, Simon Josefsson wrote: > The Agent has a hard coded behaviour not to download read articles. > There was a patch that added a new predicate `read' and changed the > default predicate from short into (and (not read) short) but I > couldn't find a way to make it backwards compatible so I hesitated > about commiting it. I loved that feature (but it corrupted my agent files :-() and I would still like to see it included. > Do you read anything before downloading it into the Agent? Then the > read articles shouldn't be downloaded. Maybe this has changed, but > I don't think so (but I haven't really used the agent much for a > while). Actually I would like to be able to have such an article put into the agent automatically, so I would be able to read it later without refetching. AFAIU this would be against the agents design and that's what the cache is for. But from a user perspective this distinction is unintuitive. I would prefer a unified agent/cache where the cached articles are agentised articles without being expired. Greetings Christoph