From: prj@po.cwru.edu (Paul Jarc)
Subject: Re: `user-mail-address' for message-ids
Date: 27 Feb 2001 17:00:49 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m33dcz9460.fsf@multivac.cwru.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <puivgpvlrwd.fsf@rp17.acl.lanl.gov> ("Jason R. Mastaler"'s message of "27 Feb 2001 14:47:46 -0700")
"Jason R. Mastaler" <jason@mastaler.com> writes:
> We are talking about gnus users here which using the same software
> will be using the same algorithm for message-id generation.
There's the confusion: we have to talk abaout *all* users, with *all*
software, on *all* machines, or else Message-ID becomes useless. An
identifier that's unique only among messages that came from Gnus isn't
useful.
Hosts shouldn't have to coordinate Message-ID generation, so they put
their FQDNs in Message-IDs, so that Message-IDs generated by different
hosts won't collide.
User agents on the same host shouldn't have to coordinate, so they
(hopefully) put an identifier such as ".fsf" in Message-IDs, so that
Message-IDs generated by different user agents won't collide.
Similarly for different users using the same agent on the same host,
different processes of the same user using the same agent on the same
host, etc.
paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-02-27 22:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-02-23 20:30 Jason R Mastaler
2001-02-23 21:00 ` Paul Jarc
2001-02-23 21:38 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-02-23 21:47 ` Paul Jarc
2001-02-23 22:30 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-02-23 22:26 ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-02-23 22:41 ` Paul Jarc
2001-02-23 22:57 ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-02-23 23:27 ` Paul Jarc
2001-02-23 23:33 ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-02-24 12:08 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-02-24 16:30 ` Simon Josefsson
2001-02-25 15:13 ` ShengHuo ZHU
2001-02-25 17:47 ` Alan Shutko
2001-02-28 0:09 ` why `system-name' is bad for Message-IDs (was Re: `user-mail-address' for message-ids) Jason R. Mastaler
2001-02-28 0:44 ` Paul Jarc
2001-02-28 1:02 ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-02-28 1:10 ` Paul Jarc
2001-02-28 1:24 ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-02-28 14:52 ` Paul Jarc
2001-02-28 1:08 ` Florian Weimer
2001-02-28 1:25 ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-02-28 2:52 ` Florian Weimer
2001-02-28 14:32 ` Alan Shutko
2001-02-28 15:23 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-02-25 19:46 ` `user-mail-address' for message-ids Paul Jarc
2001-02-27 17:28 ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-02-27 17:47 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-02-27 17:55 ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-02-27 18:12 ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-02-27 22:13 ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-02-27 22:58 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-02-27 23:13 ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-02-28 0:43 ` Paul Jarc
2001-02-28 1:06 ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-02-28 1:15 ` Paul Jarc
2001-02-28 3:01 ` Florian Weimer
2001-02-28 11:15 ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-02-28 12:44 ` Florian Weimer
2001-02-28 16:12 ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-02-28 17:19 ` Florian Weimer
2001-02-28 17:20 ` Paul Jarc
2001-02-28 20:04 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-02-28 16:01 ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-02-28 6:31 ` Christoph Conrad
2001-02-28 15:31 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-02-28 15:55 ` Norbert Koch
2001-02-28 21:09 ` NAGY Andras
2001-02-28 15:45 ` Toby Speight
2001-02-28 15:48 ` Toby Speight
2001-02-27 18:18 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-02-27 21:44 ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-02-27 21:54 ` Paul Jarc
2001-02-27 22:47 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-02-28 15:43 ` Toby Speight
2001-02-27 17:52 ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-02-27 18:00 ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-02-27 18:08 ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-02-27 18:04 ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-02-27 18:21 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-02-27 21:35 ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-02-27 21:41 ` Paul Jarc
2001-02-27 21:47 ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-02-27 22:00 ` Paul Jarc [this message]
2001-02-27 21:56 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-02-27 22:04 ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-02-27 22:14 ` Paul Jarc
2001-02-27 23:51 ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-02-28 0:54 ` Lloyd Zusman
2001-02-27 18:26 ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-02-27 21:38 ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-02-27 21:59 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-02-27 22:29 ` Florian Weimer
2001-02-27 23:58 ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-02-28 1:05 ` Florian Weimer
2001-02-28 1:19 ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-02-28 2:56 ` Florian Weimer
2001-02-28 15:36 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-02-28 16:04 ` Florian Weimer
2001-02-28 16:08 ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-02-28 16:02 ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-02-25 2:05 ` NAGY Andras
2001-02-24 12:10 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-02-25 13:36 ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-02-25 21:00 ` Denys Duchier
2001-02-26 9:35 ` Sender again again (was: Re: `user-mail-address' for message-ids) Per Abrahamsen
2001-02-26 10:53 ` Florian Weimer
2001-02-26 15:43 ` Simon Josefsson
2001-02-26 16:43 ` Florian Weimer
2001-02-26 16:45 ` Cancel-Locks (was: Re: Sender again again (was: Re: `user-mail-address' for message-ids)) Per Abrahamsen
2001-02-26 17:23 ` Cancel-Locks Florian Weimer
2001-02-26 17:40 ` Cancel-Locks Per Abrahamsen
2001-02-27 17:19 ` `user-mail-address' for message-ids Jason R. Mastaler
2001-02-27 17:28 ` Paul Jarc
2001-02-27 17:36 ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-02-27 17:52 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-02-27 19:05 ` Simon Josefsson
2001-02-27 22:01 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-02-27 22:08 ` Paul Jarc
2001-02-27 23:03 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-02-28 0:31 ` Paul Jarc
2001-02-28 15:38 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-02-27 22:49 ` Samuel Padgett
2001-02-28 15:39 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-03-01 0:38 ` Samuel Padgett
2001-02-28 11:31 ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-02-28 15:48 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-02-27 17:48 ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-02-27 17:49 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-02-27 17:57 ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-02-27 18:18 ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-02-27 18:22 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-02-27 19:15 ` Paul Jarc
2001-02-27 22:04 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-02-28 8:24 ` Paul Stevenson
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