From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/86273 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daiki Ueno Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Refactoring of mml1991.el, mml2015.el, mml-smime.el Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 15:20:27 +0900 Message-ID: References: <86wq8xffpv.fsf@informationelle-selbstbestimmung-im-internet.de> <87k2qmsrt1.fsf@informationelle-selbstbestimmung-im-internet.de> <87io5d7dwa.fsf@informationelle-selbstbestimmung-im-internet.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1447222940 32618 80.91.229.3 (11 Nov 2015 06:22:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 06:22:20 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M34505@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Nov 11 07:22:09 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwOnI-0006EW-Bi for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 07:22:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwOm5-0005QS-55; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 00:20:53 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwOlz-0005Q3-OS for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 00:20:47 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwOlx-0005gA-Pf for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 00:20:47 -0600 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwOlv-0006J4-Lg for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 07:20:43 +0100 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwOlm-0006Eo-0w for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 01:20:37 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:48631) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwOll-0006Ek-UJ for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 01:20:33 -0500 Original-Received: from du-a.org ([219.94.251.20]:48212 helo=dhcp-217-92.nrt.redhat.com) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwOll-0001Ij-7m for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 01:20:33 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87io5d7dwa.fsf@informationelle-selbstbestimmung-im-internet.de> (Jens Lechtenboerger's message of "Sat, 07 Nov 2015 21:28:21 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -8.3 (--------) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:86273 Archived-At: Jens Lechtenboerger writes: > Yes, I can move that to mml-sec.el. However, note that I=E2=80=99m not > restricting functionality to pgpmime. Inline PGP is still available > (via mml1991.el). The variables whose names include =E2=80=9Copenpgp=E2= =80=9D in my > code cover pgpmime (mml2015.el) as well as inline PGP (mml1991.el). > Therefore, I=E2=80=99d like to use =E2=80=9Copenpgp=E2=80=9D instead of = =E2=80=9Cpgpmime=E2=80=9D. Right, then "openpgp" would be fine. > Moreover, in mml-sec.el the variables mml-secure-cache-passphrase > and mml-secure-passphrase-cache-expiry are defined, which have > specialized versions in mml-smime.el, mml1991.el, and mml2015.el, > which I meant to delete or to supersede by two new variables (for > OpenPGP and S/MIME). So far, I didn=E2=80=99t receive strong feedback on > the related issue of my e-mail (passphrase caching in Emacs vs > gpg-agent). Now I wonder whether to get rid of all of them except > those in mml-secure.el (with a recommendation to use gpg-agent). It's tempting to remove them, but I guess we still need to care users who keep using gpg1 without gpg-agent. > How should I proceed from here? Ask for opinions on other mailing > lists such as the following two? > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs If there is any incompatible change in the patch, then it would be good to announce on those lists. On the other hand, if you are doing only refactoring, I doubt it will be useful to ask on the lists and it might be easier to directly push the changes to the git repo and gather practical feedbacks. Do you have copyright assignment for Emacs? If not, consider filing one. Once the process has done, I think you can ask Lars or Ted for the commit access. Regards, --=20 Daiki Ueno