From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/75149 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: James Cloos Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Nicely faster startup Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 14:49:51 -0500 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1292529163 8154 80.91.229.12 (16 Dec 2010 19:52:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 19:52:43 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M23504@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Dec 16 20:52:39 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PTJsU-00039p-Ku for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 16 Dec 2010 20:52:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PTJru-00058H-DN; Thu, 16 Dec 2010 13:52:02 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PTJrt-000588-BX for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 16 Dec 2010 13:52:01 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PTJrp-00029u-7U for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 16 Dec 2010 13:52:01 -0600 Original-Received: from eagle.jhcloos.com ([207.210.242.212]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PTJro-0007k3-7b for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 16 Dec 2010 20:51:56 +0100 Original-Received: by eagle.jhcloos.com (Postfix, from userid 10) id 4F853400C0; Thu, 16 Dec 2010 19:51:25 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jhcloos.com; s=eagle; t=1292529109; bh=sRAM7EEoMcb1naTwNzrd8aMtFqxqzOab65UmVKsj+j4=; h=From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=JQXoh5g2Zw9vd9SaO+Km/3/T6d6Pe91YYskVDGdGb9/1+K4JMY6XEp4gUCRfcG9vB kjEPcoa/+Pg8KaPsc2tvgmW46qGwBoh99GD/m6W9K8ZZyn+i+1rYcfiFtUl6lBxwHl 3Pq8XIvUQxSycW/hzS28KrYHcZfI8/ZcuQ2IXHCQ= Original-Received: from carbon (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by carbon.jhcloos.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BD0E30002A for ; Thu, 16 Dec 2010 19:49:51 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu, 16 Dec 2010 17:30:16 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAABAAAAAQCAYAAAAf8/9hAAAABHNCSVQICAgIfAhkiAAAAI1J REFUOE+lU9ESgCAIg64P1y+ngUdxhl5H8wFbbM0OmUiEhKkCYaZThXCo6KE5sCbA1DDX3genvO4d eBQgEMaM5qy6uWk4SfBYfdu9jvBN9nSVDOKRtwb+I3epboOsOX5pZbJNsBJFvmQQ05YMfieIBnYX FK2N6dOawd97r/e8RjkTLzmMsiVgrAoEugtviCM3v2WzjgAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== Copyright: Copyright 2009 James Cloos OpenPGP: ED7DAEA6; url=http://jhcloos.com/public_key/0xED7DAEA6.asc OpenPGP-Fingerprint: E9E9 F828 61A4 6EA9 0F2B 63E7 997A 9F17 ED7D AEA6 Original-Lines: 22 X-Hashcash: 1:30:101216:ding@gnus.org::o4xaKY1DDo/tfVZd:000Bnd8v X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:75149 Archived-At: >>>>> "LMI" =3D=3D Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: LMI> But 15 minutes!? Are you serious? How many groups is that? There are a continual stream of new groups, especially under my Bugs/Debian/, Bugs/Gnome/ and Commits/Gnome/ hierarchies. So it is now a bit over 21k. (You may remember that it was 20k when you first released the new nnimap.) Also note that startup had become as long as 80 minutes before you started the new nnimap and before I made dbmail-imapd's LIST command fast. The 15 minutes is spent servicing the examine/uid fetch requests. Qresync will not help, since it is only an argument to select or examine. To get startup faster would require that LIST reply with everything gnus needs for each listed group. Or a box with order- of-magnitude faster RAM, of course. =E2=98=BA -JimC --=20 James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6