From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/74943 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Streamlining first-time Gnus usage Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 18:48:00 +0100 Organization: Programmerer Ingebrigtsen Message-ID: References: <87oc8ptxks.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87k4jdtxgx.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1292262512 8834 80.91.229.12 (13 Dec 2010 17:48:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 17:48:32 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M23299@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Dec 13 18:48:28 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PSCVf-0004ee-Jf for ding-account@gmane.org; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 18:48:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PSCVV-0005j8-R6; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 11:48:17 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PSCVU-0005iy-HQ for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 11:48:16 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PSCVQ-0001KO-1K for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 11:48:16 -0600 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PSCVP-0003Qm-AO for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 18:48:11 +0100 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PSCVO-0004Sg-JV for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 18:48:10 +0100 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.34.171.getinternet.no ([84.215.34.171]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 18:48:10 +0100 Original-Received: from larsi by cm-84.215.34.171.getinternet.no with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 18:48:10 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 13 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cm-84.215.34.171.getinternet.no Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAFVBMVEU8NC9VTUeel5ETCwiE fHZqYlzLxL67XZ7bAAACSUlEQVQ4jWWTQXPiMAyFbTLtOdo0nLuKydnF0HMI3p6bxebMhtb//yfs k5MAOytmGKJPetJzjFKKqNRU14MuSQ8xlhQj0aAkSkUlkf4EoJoUAFIShRWg0FFSPdAd5EBWo4NK 6bjl8Qufpwz0Ywem4UFjTE1ZagpNOUSqDsEbj7Xm+jiIypM+BN9p47GNclY6BETEZ+hPln3hAIQ4 8UiR6i70R2tuoHAaHm1ZqzL03X9AxbFStW8AsMkMsOpg16l5i75T/pc4dAgA/fIdNua0Tey9j0MG Ssc+fa1TupTF3jNcAJDynBCoY96Mjf3NDKUYveLskwL4pT859yNreSPG69Bzm9JY6QqrsBBmRTH4 nE9dYQts0kOD04jDFw6hL/spG7rn/AQQPDpQUu0xwe2rXW6fOgD4Ykupf2/smG5AtBqdhc5/XDsD SMn01yKD9+TOS0ceYpDfbwpnU7NeAAizDMBmzrXXGdR5usE67gPk+nx9XgCk2Ljz1Unp9/sC5MB6 3rh2dFskvrbXh+HMPzGg2kvHrmnvPphf31JqAFOZmnQDMP66Y/6GtW6bjumxo9niuIr1Bu6qdHc+ gfa4q+xHOi0gH9VxxTwW1gHcnHshJwB5HRpg/3iI1YoPyFvdp8NHvh3TsXu3MmW+3sH4/J44O/fG rQ648wJ6ybe5A2KdeyEdB/xn5Zq1WYqEnNxbDHLTcr0oAeDcY2EjpNnM+TyDaDp4uam8lDNPYM7P wQug/NJv+anBSIc4vOfvAFsF/rc+gyAW2wd9k7/+AuHS+DGdlFkHAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC Mail-Copies-To: never X-Now-Playing: ANBB's _Mimikry_: "Fall" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ZsaK1QPyxnpFsqJxrczEl4gQGQY= X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:74943 Archived-At: My test case now starts up fine (if you disregard the .gpg issues), but I discovered while doing this that on Gnus startup, Gnus reads all the active files twice. Once in the old, slow way, and once in the new, slightly faster way. So I just removed that stuff altogether. This may or may not cause subtle and not-so-subtle problems, but it seems to work for me. But let me know whether it works or not... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen