From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/53752 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Matthias Andree Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus: UTF-8 and compatibility with other MUAs Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 20:21:39 +0200 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1061144587 3300 80.91.224.253 (17 Aug 2003 18:23:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 18:23:07 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M2293@lists.math.uh.edu Sun Aug 17 20:23:05 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19oSBF-0007qj-00 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2003 20:23:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19oSA4-0008Rw-00; Sun, 17 Aug 2003 13:21:52 -0500 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com ([64.157.176.121]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19oS9w-0008Ro-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 17 Aug 2003 13:21:44 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 18181 invoked by alias); 17 Aug 2003 18:21:44 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 18176 invoked from network); 17 Aug 2003 18:21:43 -0000 Original-Received: from p508779ba.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO m2a2.dyndns.org) (?iD/LSPpGiUjdGtMt/CWr9U9kDn/64iAb?@80.135.121.186) by sclp3.sclp.com with SMTP; 17 Aug 2003 18:21:43 -0000 Original-Received: by merlin.emma.line.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 4B42493A1B; Sun, 17 Aug 2003 20:21:39 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Oliver Scholz's message of "Sun, 17 Aug 2003 19:24:19 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:53752 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:53752 Oliver Scholz writes: > I have to admit that this is a very strong argument. It could > probably convince me, if the situation in Usenet were not already > such a mess. I agree that it is sometimes a good thing to preserve a > current working state in order to maximize compatibility. But > sometimes it is a good thing to dare a reform. Which is the case for > Usenet is probably a matter of estimation. I think I have stated most > of my arguments. RFC violations in Usenet are commonplace in Northern Europe and Germany anyways. dk.* and no.* users complained when leafnode didn't accept their unencoded 8-bit headers. (At least, there's no newsgroup such as no.=F8stfold - which Arnt Gulbrandsen, original author of leafnode, was concerned about.) --=20 Matthias Andree