From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/22400 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jack Twilley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Once again: PGnus & PGP Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 02:16:33 GMT Organization: SunSITE Denmark (sunsite.auc.dk) Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <19990407183048.A29643@diabolo.ndh.net> <99Apr8.153506edt.13862-3@gateway.intersys.com> Reply-To: jmt+usenet@nycap.rr.com NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035160327 29128 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 00:32:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 00:32:07 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from farabi.math.uh.edu (farabi.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.57]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA00803 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:17:48 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by farabi.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAB24889; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:17:00 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:17:31 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA15099 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:17:21 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sunsite.auc.dk (sunsite.auc.dk [130.225.51.30]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA00779 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:17:13 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (qmail 16565 invoked by uid 509); 12 Apr 1999 02:16:33 -0000 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Path: not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: emacs.ding X-Attribution: Jack X-PGP-Key: 0x007F7B38 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 5315 7434 6095 DF36 995B 3407 18F1 527C 007F 7B38 X-Face: -aT_3D,@|Ngv8(RriE+AA_SZAPp-vuRGEbW8Yjd3J4V:ipbK3UQsOnMT{9T}h@sr17q%cX27q4Dc^vq]vc*A`.hnG8DSW#@G5~v"WeP-/06JM(-TkixR>>>> "Rat" == Stainless Steel Rat writes: Jack> So declare it an unsupported non-standard, and refuse to Jack> acknowledge those who use it. Rat> Which is pretty much exactly what I do. Hee. If someone didn't know you, they might call you an elitist or something.[1] Jack> Now what about this PGP/MIME crap? Is this the message with Jack> detached signature thing? Rat> PGP/MIME uses a combination of detached signatures and MIME Rat> encoding to hide PGP blocks from view. Unlike X-Pgp, Rat> PGP/MIME retains at least some form of block delimitation Rat> which means that unless something really broken happened it Rat> should be possible to reconstruct the message so as to be Rat> able to validate the signature. Okay. So if the MIME blocks are analogous to files, why couldn't mailcrypt simply take the "application/pgp-signature" and apply it to the previous attachment, whatever it is? Would that work? I'm going to test it on Carey's message, by hand. Rat> MIME itself is Evil, but that is a separate issue. :) Indeed. However, there are greater and lesser forms of Evil. I'm seeing X-Pgp as being Broken Evil, and this PGP/MIME as simply Stupid Evil. Jack. [1] If someone knew you, they might say the same. Dunno. ;-) -- Jack Twilley jmt@nycap.rr.com .