From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/20991 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: More charset things Date: 04 Feb 1999 18:49:14 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87d83qkyjf.fsf@pc-hrvoje.srce.hr> <87ognahyoh.fsf@pc-hrvoje.srce.hr> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035159183 20701 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 00:13:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 00:13:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: xemacs-mule@xemacs.org Return-Path: Original-Received: from karazm.math.uh.edu (karazm.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.1]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA14698 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 12:54:48 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by karazm.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAB11147; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:53:32 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 04 Feb 1999 11:53:48 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA10190 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:53:30 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from quimbies.gnus.org (larsi@ppp046.uio.no [129.240.240.47]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA14654 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 12:53:21 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: (from larsi@localhost) by quimbies.gnus.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA01267; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:52:52 +0100 Mail-Copies-To: never X-Now-Reading: Sheri S. Tepper's _The Family Tree_ X-Now-Playing: Various's _We Are Reasonable People_: "Jimi Tenor - Wear My Bikini" Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Hrvoje Niksic's message of "04 Feb 1999 18:21:50 +0100" User-Agent: Gnus/5.070076 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.76) Emacs/20.3 X-Face: &w!^oO~dS|}-P0~ge{$c!h\ writes: > > That's not my table. :-) When MULE supports utf-8, Gnus will > > support utf-8. > > That is not a nice way of thinking. I don't see any other way of thinking. Grokking utf-8 is way outside the scope of Gnus -- it has to be an Emacs thing. > MULE is little else than a Japanese version of Emacs, and it appears > that the Japanese are not interested in Unicode. So it wasn't > implemented. I'm not sure about FSF, but for XEmacs, I know of no > plans to implement it in the near future. A partial implementation of utf-mumble was posted recently somewhere by someone. (Could I possible get any more vague?) So I'm Cc'ing this to the xemacs-mule list. Anyway, I find that I'm strangely fascinated by the idea of an editor that allows intermingling of text that uses a variety of character sets. I have an urge to jump into the matter, but I'm such a charset novice that I don't really feel qualified. (Well, I don't have the time, either, but that's a minor detail.) I asked before for a likely book that would introduce me to the basic concepts, and someone (Stephen Turnbull?) told me, but then I forgot. (At least, I can't find any books on charset issues in my list of books to buy.) Could that someone (or someone else) re-recommend the book(s) that I should buy to get both an introduction and more in-depth knowledge about charset issues? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen